thx1139 said:
Bladeforce said:
I call crap on all the people that say Microsoft have a hardware revision to come. YEAH IT'S CALLED A NEW CONSOLE. Never have Microsoft made a "revision" they are so badly designed to begin with it would cost a fortune to make it slim. |
Its no secret that MS has been working on a combined CPU/GPU 45NM chip for the next revision.
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:s as much as it would explain my question about the delay, it at the same time makes me hope it isn't true.
Trying to combine eDRAM, a two die GPU and the CPU doesn't sound cost efficient. So many things can go wrong leaving the entire die useless and then there's the heat generated in once place instead of having it spread.
Surly the wisest thing would be to sepperatly shrink each processors and when that works they can be combined.
jarrod said:
OctaBech said:
jarrod said:
OctaBech said:
PalmiNio said:
It's easy to look at the numbers now and belive that it will stay this way.
Is it critical for MS to do a pricecut within 6 months? no, thats just stupid. From waht we have learned the pricecuts has best effect when done in sept. Just like Sony could hold out most of 2009, MS will do the same 2010. We all know that jan-sept don't count in the race for the whole year.
MS has, besides a pricecut, the hardware revision card to play. I can bet my nut that they have a fully working 45nm system working right now that they are tweaking to work in a slim case.
All MS has to do is to release a revision with larger drive, 250gb should be enough, that is slimmer and with WiFi and HDMI 1.3 and they will have the same jump as PS3. |
But that's what had me puzzled in a different thread, what has kept MS from revising the hardware? They could have increased profits even more and prevented the PS3 from getting this close or even been in a direct price competition with Nintendo.
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No console's gotten a case revision as fast as PS3 has. Arguably, 360 didn't need it, PS3 did.... now the tables are turned.
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Meh, I got no interest in the plastic casing, I was talking about the internals.
The 360 could have gotten rid of the fan noise and perhaps even the RRoD thingy, plus a quick google says MS back in '07 where pushing hard for 65nm and had big plans for 45nm chips but since then the PS3 has taken the inner line.
MS shouldn't have allowed Sony to make adverts about their console cutting power consumption.
I know why the original xBox never really had a hardware revision, but this time poorly executed contracts with the hardware suppliers shouldn't be a problem.
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Uh... 360's on it's 4th internal revision already. 5th if you count the differing refurbs.
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Wikipedia? Adding an HDMI port as an afterthought for then trying to make it fit better in isn't what I'm talking about and neither is reperation of initial mistakes. The two real revisions there has been haven't helped on noise levels.
This is a futile debate because we only have the result and not the technical/financial reasons behind it.
