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Procrastinato said:
jarrod said:
Procrastinato said:
I hope you guys don't expect the DSi LL to have some whopping opener.

Diversity in lineup -- legs is the point.

DSi LL is consciously targeting a different audience (seniors), one that tends not to be near as frontloaded when it comes to their buying patterns.  Seems an odd comparison to make frankly, I can't really see it as anything but damage control for these unquestionably disappointing Go figures (28k out of a 150k shipment). 

Umm.. the PSP Go isn't targetting a different audience?

Have you guys forgotten that the PSP-3000 is still being made, and is much cheaper?  This isn't "damage control" -- the PSP Go was not meant to shake the handheld world.  On the contrary, anyone expecting the PSP Go to uproot the handheld market is, basically, off their rocker.

Let me reiterate: diversity in lineup.

Look at how many versions of A/V receivers Sony makes, or BD players, TVs, etc. (and look at the price ranges!)  Do you honestly believe that the PSP Go doesn't fit into this same bucket?  Suggesting that it doesn't is, basically, defying decades old logic in electronics manufacturing -- you better have some serious facts to back up the expectation that the PSP Go is anything more than a demographics expansion unit.  

The Go is an alternate unit.  It, basically, cannot fail thanks to its price point.  Claiming its a "failure" is laughable, since there is no logic, whatsoever, that backs the claim.  The DSi is an improved device (with 2x the processing muscle, and 4x the memory of previous DS models -- it is basically a DS v1.5).  The PSP Go is not.  You cannot compare the two releases.  The DSi vs the DSi LL, however, is a valid comparison -- fundamentally they are only a different form factor, just like the PSP-3000 and PSP Go, as far as new buyers are concerned.

A different audience?  What audience is that exactly?  It's not meant to target the young, male, tech savvy, hardcore, Monster Hunting demographic?  Y'know, the one that buys 50% of the games they want in the first day or two?  

Your revisionist take is cute, recasting the Go as a wider reaching luxury alternative, but that pretty clearly wasn't the intent here.  This isn't something that will broach new demographics, it's aimed squarely at the gamer core.  And they seem to not really give a shit, hence the embarrassing 19% sell-through figure day one.

DSi LL is a much different beast, aimed at a specific demographic subset, not the core audience, and one that is notorious for buying incrementally over the long term rather than upfront.  Maybe we should just compare DSL or GB micro, since those platforms seems to hit closer to your wandering goalposts and actually have figures for comparison?  I'd also be careful of bringing in "logic" when you're staking the claim that any degree of failure is inherently impossible...