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HappySqurriel on 29 October 2009
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Netyaroze said:

The Wii is more pirated then the GC a lot more. And its impossible yet to play copied games on PS3.

The PS3 is the first completely pirate free Sony Console. All others were pirated heavily.

The Bluray is one reason for it. And they can make a proprietary Bluray format too.

And HD DVD is stupid because it would cost more then Bluray. Noboy produces the drive and nobody makes research on it now tho make it cheaper like they do with Bluray. So it would cost a lot more and HD DVDs are not pressed anymore. And thats why they are expensiv in future compared to Bluray because more sold Blurays means lesser costs the same what was with DVD there was a Time a DVD costed 15 Dollar. 

So there are 2 possibilitys

1: They use again a DVD or a slightly different Variation
2: They use Bluray or a slightly different Variation

Downloading only is no real option.

And in a few years there will be only Blurays. Its like the CD. As DVD came CD only drives disappear. The same will happen with Bluray. I saw it atleast a 5-6 times happening how a format slowly won and replaced the old. And this is what will happen with DVD. Especially for games.


Voxel Engines will be standard in a some years everything will consist out of voxels and Textures Polygons will be a thing of the past or used not in the extend as today. If everybody got the point of Voxels its a huge step forward. But for those Engines is a massive amount of space needed. Even more than Bluray can offer now because the objects will be filled with voxels. So you need a lot more Space. In 15 years the games will have 1 Terabyte or more. And bluray is the next logical step its. If its not happening this Gen then for sure next Gen. Nintendo would just catch up with PS3 Xbox360 maybe they will keep the DVD but WII 3 will have Bluray or kind of Bluray 100%.

And who knows how low the Prices will sink until the end of 2011. A PS3 will cost 199. And the Wii 2 could launch at 249 with proprietary Bluray and even better Hardware. With no XDR Ram that will make it cheaper and no Cell but a really good 2009 GPU and maybe some kind of Quad CPU. And 1024 GDDR3Ram. Not extremly more powerful and still at a reasonable price. And the Graphics will be enough to compete with the PS4 or 720. And Nintendo would have probably 1-2 years headstart.

2010 seems to early.

First off, what has prevented piracy for the PS3 is that it hasn't sold that well (more popular consoles have more effort devoted to piracy because there is profit in it) and the trivial way that the XBox 360 and Wii were "Cracked" would force people to download a full disc image to preserve the signed data on the game disc; and the cost of burning a Blu-Ray disc along with the time to download 25GB of data are what prevent piracy, the format itself provides little protection.

Now, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are not that different from a technological standpoint and with very minor changes you could engineer a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD drive to play the other format. Using HD-DVD in a couple of years will be very similar to how Nintendo used Panasonic's format (that was never actually manufactured, only used as a competitive bid to create the DVD format) on the Gamecube.

Voxel engines are about as advanced as ray-casting ... Voxel engines were used in the mid 90s on games like Starwars Rogue Squadren for the N64, and although ray-casting sounds like ray-tracing it is the technique used to produce games like Doom. If you want to see the future of modeling techiques in games, look at the techniques used in big-budget 3D movies today (which are primarily polygons and spline modeling).

Now, while Blue-lazer based disc readers may become standard for games in the future there is nothing saying that Blu-Ray will ever become as dominant of a format that CD (or even DVD) was. On the data side of things flash memory, removeable hard-drives and DVD drives satisfy the vast majority of needs that people have and there is little reason to adopt Blu-Ray for any reason besides burning/watching movies on your PC; and for Movies people seem split over whether they want legitimate digital distribution, to steal movies (an 8GB download for a 1080p movie isn't bad), continue paying bargain prices for movies of adequate quality ($5 DVD is still pretty sweet) or adopt Blu-Ray ...

Edit: just as a side note ... One of the primary reasons I am so skeptical of Blu-Ray as a data format is because it is the only optical disc format that has been released that is dramatically smaller than the hard-drives people typically have in their computer. People adopted CD at a time when 20 to 40 MB hard-drives were common, people adopted DVD when 2 to 4 GB hard-drives were common, and Blu-Ray was released when 100+ GB hard-drives were common.