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vlad321 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Alterego-X said:
Akvod said:
 Pirating is immoral because it violates another person's right to property (intellectual). Re-selling/giving games isn't immoral because you aren't breaching the developer's right to intellectual property, and practicing your own right to property.

Even if pirating helps the gaming industry, they're still violating the rights of other human beings.

So pirating is immoral, because it is illegal? Even if it benefits gaming, and generally the greater picture, it should be forbidden simply because it violates current IP laws?

I guess you would also say that it was immoral to help the Jews escape from the orders of the legally ruling Nazi party. 

 

(And yes, I totally invoked Godwin's Law, after 235 posts this was inevitable.)

Pirating is illegal. Not only are you harming a company's intellectual rights, but also causing companies to want to license products to people in digital form instead of hard format. Not only are they coming after the likes of Gamestop, but they are coming after the fans as well. This can be seen very well with digital games on consoles and the PSP Go. You don't own digitally formated games. You only have the right to play them. All the rest of the rights belong to the creator and publisher. Piracy doesn't create interest into anything but pirating. It became a modern craze with Napster and practically demolished the recold sales of the music industry and now it is coming for gaming. Piracy benefits only those who want to game for free, not the industry because it doesn't stimulate it in anyway and makes you a target for the government. Pirated games are not the official versions of a game because they've been recreated (Which is illegal in every media form and you see it before movie credits) in a file format (like MP3) and shared like wildfire. This is the major reason NPD refuses to record PC sales.

I don't know about the record industry thing. Some studies have shown tht people who pirate music also buy more music albums than non-pirates.


LOL.....thats hilarious. Pirates have destroyed the music industry. It took one dumbass kid in college to start a popular trend and now it has spread like wildfire and taken a famous musician and performers bread and butter. Pirates walk into movie theatres with camcorders, they share unlicensed music, They mod consoles and allow for old games to be emulated on them releasing owners of said product to relinquish their warranties (by choice) They made copies of VHS and DVD's and when you watch movies you already see a warning on the screen before the rating even starts not to copy the official tape or DVD. Pirates do it anyway. Show me these studies, because pirates have done nothing for the industry. I remember the days when top recording arstists sold hundreds of millions of records (in a healthy economy) and today they top artists can barely sell four to five million copies. It's just fucking sad. This is what happened to the industry once the internet arrived. I also heard in Japan the government is starting to want to crack down on pirates and ban their internet connection if caught. Microsoft bans people mercilessly who pirate copies of their 360 titles and try to play online. To see so many people playing Modern Warfare on PC with a no account of sales from NPD  is a fucking shame.