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Akvod on 25 October 2009
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vlad321 said:
ironman said:
vlad321 said:
ironman said:
 

 

1. Why would he spend more money on the new title when he can just buy it used for less money? In which case the publisher will continue to not see money.

Because, as I have told you before, he can't get the game day one and enjoy it untill somebody else has already done so.

2. Please show me HOW pirate music and pirate gaming demographics are different. Prove means show me data, not just talk out of your ass, believe it or not the 2 people ae pretty similar. People who play video games listen to music, go figure, and people who know how to download music also probably play video games or they wouldn't be so good at pirating the music. Also the fact that pirating would skyrocket if used market goes away jsut goes to show you that the two are indeed very close to each other.

Easy, most people (if not all) who pirate games, pirate music. Many who pirate musc do not pirate games. Also the age demographics are differant. Just from what I have seen at Demonoid, the majority of game uploaders are in the 16 - 27 age bracket. This is not the case with music uploaders.

And actually, the fact that pirating would skyrocket if the used market goes away, shows you that you should not do away with the used game market. But thanks for trying!

 

1. Same with pirates. It took a week and a half to crack BioShock. Some Steam games take jsut as long. As such, maybe the pirate wants to buy it day one and not wait a week to get the game cracked. It also takes about a week for the fast people to finish their games and sell them used, so I don't see how this is even a valid argument at all.

 

2. Ok now you are just being stupid.

If A is a subset of B, and B has the property c, then property c also applies to A. You stated it yourself, game piates are also music pirates, but music pirates don't have to be game pirates. I agree on that. However studies have shown that Music Piates buy more albums than people who don't pirate. As such the game pirates are ALSO included in said study, meaning that on average they buy more digital software than people who DON'T pirate. Suggesting that piracy actually EXPANDS the market and helps it grow.

I suggestt you finish school befoe making any more arguments because they are jsut starting to sound desperate now. If you knew Set Theory 101 you wouldn't have made a fool of yourself there.

I have no idea why you guys are arguing about whether pirates expand or hurt the market. Pirating is immoral because it violates another person's right to property (intellectual). Re-selling/giving games isn't immoral because you aren't breaching the developer's right to intellectual property, and practicing your own right to property.

Even if pirating helps the gaming industry, they're still violating the rights of other human beings.