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Rath said:
Slimebeast said:
Rath said:
Final-Fan said:
Rath said:
@ultima. He's claiming that Heisenberg's Uncertainty is in fact not uncertain. It is possible but entirely without evidence.

All the evidence right now points to a non-deterministic universe.

But as the quote I gave says, there is randomness.  Whether the specific outcomes are determined by some other thing that is actually the source of the randomness is irrelevant to the fact that the randomness exists and in the end emanates from those occurrences in quantum physics.  

Am I wrong?   

What slimebeast is saying is that it isn't random, it just appears random because we can't see what is causing it. Like how a coin flip appears random but is in fact if you look at the underlying details it is bound to end up one way from the moment it is flipped.

 

I disagree with him, but that is his what I think he is saying.

Correct.

Maybe all materia is made up of strings on the lowest level and there's 11 dimensions of spacetime, and events on that lowest level govern the behaviour of the particles on the atomic level.


I didn't think any of the major models of string theory had variables governing quantum behaviour?

Well, I don't know the exact definition of quantum behaviour. Maybe it's by definition the most fundamental level of particles/physics?

Im just thinking these photons and stuff behaving probabilstically could be explained by string vibrations and their positions in several dimensions.