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Avinash_Tyagi said:
badgenome said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
As I pointed out, your argument also falls flat on the basis of your own beliefs, on personal responsibility, doing something stupid and then whining that the government made it too easy for you to do that stupid thing only shows that you were an idiot, it was their responsibility not to give out bad loans, and the consumers not to take them, so blaming the government is disingenuous, the government didn't forec them to make bad decisions.

Hardly. People are still responsible for making or accepting bad loans, sure, but the government is also responsible for incentivizing such reckless behavior.

The government may have incentivized, but if the government incentivized sticking your hand into a running wood chipper, would you do it? Seriously, you guys are forgetting that these companies had time to adjust and change course, even when all economic logic was telling them it was a bad idea to go forward, and yet they did, the blame falls on their shoulders for making bad decisions.  Not to mention, that still doesn't address all the other factors that were involved that had nothing to do with the government.

I'd like to say no, but if the government incentivized sticking one's hand into a running wood chipper to the point that people did it on a daily basis and it became the industry standard, who fucking knows?