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TRios_Zen on 13 October 2009
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uber said:
TRios_Zen said:

I think you might be taking apart your own argument here...

Sony has included stuff in their box; we'll call it their "value proposition", okay?  To achieve "brute sales" greater than the 360, they had to cut the price to increase the percieved value.  IF Microsoft attempts to increase thier "value proposition" by including Natal or further reducing the price, they are responding to a changing market, that is no more a "tacit acknowledgement" of anything, then Sony's original re-design/price cut was.

I don't want to get stuck on semantics here, but I'm finding your original position (that MS fans should acknowlede inferiority) to be discredited by your above response, and your further suppositions to be, well, pretty vanilla.  At the same price point, the public DOES prefer a blu-ray playing, wi-fi having video game console to one that doesn't...I think most people would agree with that.  Microsofts inevitable response (enabled by thier original design decisions) is just that, a response to an evolving market place.  Pretty basic business 101 there. 

So I'm not sure exactly what ARE the implications you are trying to make?

the implication is just as you said.  you just removed the label of superior from the discussion.  you are right that the public has said that at the same price they would prefer the ps3.  that is the bottom line.  halo can't change that.  gears can't change that.  the ps3 had releases that made the public consider preferring the ps3 despite its inflated price.  the fact that the only thing that can make the 360 competitive is either lowering the price or changing their value proposition is, in my opinion, an indictment of the system as a whole.   i think many people still want to hold on to the feeling they had when the ps3 was floundering in weak sales and absent marketing.  they took that as a mandate of the people that the 360 was better and all that jive.  i was merely trying to highlight the folly of such thinking.

@Bolded, Sony did the exact same thing, no they did BOTH, just to get where we are at now, yet you are trying to "highlight the folly of some people thinking the 360 is better" because Microsoft may have to react to that at some point in the future?

The truth is, even though you seem to want to point out the folly of over-reacting to market situations, aren't you doing the exact same thing, except proclaiming "the PS3 is better" and all that jive?