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c0rd on 12 October 2009
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ckmlb said:
everdom said:

@cklmb But how many new HD ip's would you consider sleeper hits in the way that NMH was, that is to say that they werent backed up by massive advertising campaigns.

Good to see you back BTW, even if you have a different opinion you can argue it logically and calmly, good to see!

I don't consider NMH a sleeper hit, but I can also not recall with 100% how much marketing all new IPs have gotten, but for example Lost Odyssey didn't get much marketing and has sold over 700 thousand outside of Japan.

Test Drive Unlimited has sold almost 700 thousand.

The Darkness has sold almost 700 thousand on 360 and PS3 combined.

Also, as far as I can remember Bioshock and Left 4 Dead 2 didn't get a huge marketing push just a few ads which NMH also got through Ubisoft publishing it.

Dirt didn't get too many ads and it has sold almost 1 million on 360 alone.

Grid has sold over 1.5 million across both 360 and PS3.

And I'm leaving before I derail this thread any further.

Lost Odyssey got a lot of marketing. I recall seeing the ad for it on TV all the time. Remember this?


Anyway, I don't know why people argue for NMH, or even MadWorld selling great on HD consoles. The older comparisons you made are not as good examples as the developers' previous games are - see how well Killer7, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, and God Hand did on the PS2. They may be great games, but they aren't million selling material on any console. Putting them on the HD consoles isn't going to change this.