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Baroque_Dude said:
Final-Fan said:
Baroque_Dude said:
You got muddled.

I explain it all in my posts. Read them again. You're the only user that is arguing with me because "you said that he said, but you said what you're now saying that you don't said, etc.". Others are arguing with me because of what I said, so I think that, although not sharing my opinion, they understood my point.

Read my posts again, I don't want to go in circles. Thank you.

That argument is over a whole different set of posts.  

I've reviewed the posts.  I still have the same problem with what you've said.  

How did you not contradict yourself when you made the statements I refer to in the edit?  

"Well, I "believed in" 
highwaystar101, he mentioned that." ("that" referring to my post "And at what point exactly did the Pope say it's OK to "believe in evolution"?")

vs. 

"- highwaystar101 indeed quoted the Pope.
"- The Pope said that both elements in discussion, here, are compatible.
"- I criticized what the Pope said.
"That's it."
("That's it" excluding the possibility that you could have been talking about the Pope condoning "believing IN evolution" instead of evolution theory merely not being contradictory to Christian teaching (i.e. 'the two are compatible').)

So, please explain where I went wrong in the above.  


You know, although the above response works, I have a more direct one.   
--"And at what point exactly did the Pope say it's OK to "believe in evolution"?"
--"Well, I "believed in" highwaystar101, he mentioned that."
--"He didn't say that the Pope said that the ideas in those theories were something Christians could put faith in, just that the theories did not contradict Christianity."
--
"- highwaystar101 indeed quoted the Pope.
"- The Pope said that both elements in discussion, here, are compatible.
"- I criticized what the Pope said.
"That's it."

What did that have to do with anything?  You didn't address my point at all.  Do you or do you not still claim the Pope said it's OK to "believe in evolution"?  

(The key here is your phrase "both elements in discussion":  does that mean Christianity and "believing in evolution", or Christianity and "thinking that evolution is true but not subscribing to some kind of faith revolving around evolution"?

(And if the second, then you are factually incorrect when you claim that you criticized what the Pope said.  You only criticized the first viewpoint and criticized the Pope.)

- high"waystar101 indeed quoted the Pope.
- The Pope said that both elements in discussion, here, are compatible.
- I criticized what the Pope said.
That's 

Look, you're "spinning around your vertical axis". You're arguing alone and you're messing things up.

I tell you again, nor highstarway101, nor Rath, nor Manus Jus tus, nor WessleWoogle, nor bdbdbd, nor Kasz216, nor others are discussing "that" (to call some way something that doesn't exist) with me, because although being in desagreement with my posts, they understood what I said.

I explained in detail WHY I disagree with what the Pope said (with that alleged statement, no matter if he said that or not, I disagree with that statement and I said why) and WHY I disagree with the papacy. Period.

You're just arguing with a monster that you created. I try to be kind to everyone and I don't want to get angry with you, but your posts are starting to seem a bad taste joke to me. Do you want me to go crazy or what?

I'm sorry if you feel that my words are harsh, but I want you to understand (in case this isnt's a joke of yours), ok?

So ... you're saying that you were just explaining why you disagree with a statement, regardless of whether the Pope (or indeed anyone) actually said it?

I don't think I'm the one arguing alone.  

Look, all I want at this point is whether or not you still claim the Pope said that statement you argued against, and this last post of yours seems to indicate that you don't even CARE, which implies that the answer is "no".   



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