Greatest scientific evidence for evolution?

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Baroque_Dude said:

Final-Fan said:

Baroque_Dude said:

highwaystar101 said:

Oh good, I'm so glad that I didn't offend you. Even though I was being honest, I thought maybe I was crossing a line there. But it's all good.

About the Christian "bias" if you will. I've never understood the whole evolution/big bang Christian thing anyway. Obviously there are a few problems between the two but I believe it was pope John Paul II who said something like...

"Evolution and the big bang are perfectly compatible theories with Christianity, as long as long as you accept god was the creator then why couldn't evolution and the big bang just be his methods of creation?".

I think that was severely paraphrased as it was from memory, but you get the point. If there is a god then why shouldn't these be his methods of creation? They obviously work, regardless of who or what started it.

Just a side note, partially related to your post, although not directly related with the current topic:

Being the papacy a completely antibiblical institution (not only because of its origin and reasons to exist, but also because of its doctrine nowadays and in the past), the Pope isn't the best source that Christians should listen in order to know how they have to behave Christianly. Not at all.

One may embrace creationism or not, but if you call yourself a Christian (that means not only accepting Christ as your Saviour, but also accepting what He taught and He didn't change the Old Testament nor the Creation account), it's utterly stupid to believe "in" evolution. I repeat, I'm not referring to discuss if evolution is true or not, I'm pointing out that saying to be Christian and believing in evolution isn't simply compatible. If you believe in evolution, good for you, but do "Christianity" a favour and don't call yourself a Christian because you're rejecting the very base.

Some people (both Christians and atheists/agnostics) understand this very well while others seem to keep smashing their heads against a wall, by saying that is compatible. Thank you, Pope, for one more of your stellar contributions to Christianity.

*breathes, sighs, leaves*

Well, "Catholics aren't Christian" is better than "the Pope is the AntiChrist", but ... no.  

Also, I think you're putting way too much on the phrase "believing IN evolution".  Most people who might say yes to "do you believe in evolution?" really mean that they are confident in the correctness of the theory, not that they subscribe dogmatically to some mythical faith revolving around evolution.  

So in short, don't jump on a minute misspeech that [edit: highwaystar101] and the Pope didn't even commit.   

That's why I put "believe "in" evolution. Do you see that?

We humans accept and assume things differently, sometimes. When I say that they believe in evolution I was precisely referring to what you said, although I must also say that a lot of people accept it "just because".

Regards.

And at what point exactly did the Pope say it's OK to "believe in evolution"?  Because otherwise that whole part of the post falls apart.