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@ Dr.Grass: I have to admit, I made an assumption about you individually that apparently did not reflect reality.

It's very interesting to see an evolution denier that does NOT have religious grounds for his rejection of it (and the "scientific" objections merely an excuse).

On the other hand, you still betray a willingness to swallow some of the fanatics' feeble excuses.

But before I even start, I have to tell you how disappointing it is to see that most of your "reasons" for not giving the model were tawdry slogans/bullet points that may or may not be related to actual reasons:

- consciousness can't be quantified
What? What does its quantification have to do with its evolution? The only argument I could see being made out of this is that it would be hard to pin down when "human intelligence" came about. (as opposed to whether it in fact happened at all)

- the record of the rocks
All this tells me is that you have a problem of some sort with geology/archaeology or possibly stone monuments.

- ancient civilizations of Peru, Egypt, India etc that seem to contradict the model
...ancient civilizations are disproof of evolution? Oh, please do explain.

- the famous bacterial flagellum (spelling!?)
I presume this is the sad objection of Behe, or possibly you got it through Dembski considering you like the throw teh probabilities around (though I believe Dembski assumes Behe).
For a good explanation of why this objection is bogus, http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design2/article.html
And for a good (very detailed, I skimmed) explanation of how the flagellum may have in fact developed, http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/flagellum.html
(But hey, you did spell it right.)

- if all life is is a combination of matter, then if I give you matter you should in theory be able to give me life
Well, if I could construct an environment like Earth was billions of years ago, and you paid me to sit there and stir the pot for about another billion, then I probably could.

And finally, your first real, articulated reason:
- I've had at least 20 out of body experiences where I've verified things in other locations with other people
Is this the sort of verification that can be confirmed (the findings, I mean) with physical evidence? Or is it just a spiritual experience?



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