Congratulations ssj12, your man is on fire right now!

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Helios said:

Sqrl said:

Parokki said:
I'm about 3/4 of the entire political spectrum to the left from this guy, greatly enjoying the free healthcare and university education my country provides, but I wouldn't at all if this guy became the next president of the United States. He reminds me of James Kirk, John Sheridan, and all the other awesome American leaders in fiction that never seem to exist in real life.

FYI - Your healthcare nor your education is free, thats why you pay taxes. The only thing you really have is less say in what you get for that money, next time you get annoyed with high prices in the EU relative to other regions you should remember that.

If people want to support this idealogy thats their choice, but lets not call it what it isn't. And it most certainly isn't free.

Way to patronize the guy. Do you honestly think he doesn't know how his own tax system works?

In the case of Parokki, yes, it is technically ‘free’, because he hasn't paid a lot of tax yet. But that's not the point of Socialism, obviously. The system exists primarily for the less fortunate - because they would never be able to pay for private services - as well as a means for the government to regulate how society grows and works. Yes, over here (Scandinavia/Europe), the government isn't considered evil. So, for those who pay very little taxes (they exist, of course, and enjoy a much superior life to their American-poverty brethren), it's ‘free’. And those who do pay for those people, well, they can afford it.

Now, Americans deluding themselves into thinking their country/ideology/garden/whatever is actually superior to others, rather than a functioning one... That’s another matter. Me? I don’t favour any system, but (Chinese) Communism is clearly where it’s at if you want progress.

Also, when I complain about prices, I complain about the difference after the VAT has been accounted for. Needless to say, it's still quite monumental, and is mostly a result of corporate greed.

 I was going to write the same thing... To word it differently, basically pay your education after you have your degree and have got a job, and that's also the point, when you start paying your healthcare and for your future retirement.

 

Chinese communism if you want progress? You call that capitalism.