L4D2 is $20 cheaper on PC than 360

[vlad321]

Mendicate Bias said:

vlad321 said:

Mendicate Bias said:

Zenfolder don't bother arguing with Vlad, I've been down this road before with him. Basically he sees his opinion as truth and everyone else as a juvenile minded infant that can't possibly see how complex his favorite games are. He will just laugh ignorantly if you give him a list of the greatest console exclusive games and tell you how he plays deus ex every day since release. He thinks that everyone else should, like him, enjoy playing a game over and over again based exclusively off sporadic mods from a gaming community that has no guarantee of consistent output.

Honestly at this point I feel sorry for him, I think it would be horrible if I was so self indulgent that I was unable to enjoy newly released games and had to resort to playing decade old releases. Just the fact that he refuses to admit that console games have ever innovated in any way whatsoever should show you how blindly he follows his prejudices.

I feel as though the more publishers move towards consoles and put PC releases on the back burner the more hostile the PC community gets as they see their favorite franchises moving to a new medium. They have the same mentality that Nintendo fans had of square-enix for a while when they betrayed Nintendo and went to Sony.

Here I will list the biggest console exclusive games of this generation and I guarantee you that Vlad says that every single one of them is crap. MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Halo 3, GoW2, Fable II, Super Mario Galaxy, LBP, SSBB, ToV, Demon Souls, Crackdown, Infamous, Twilight Princess, Ninja Gaiden 2, God of War 3, Forza 3, GT5, No More Heroes, FF13. I could keep going but that will do. The fact that a gamer can't find a single enjoyable game in that bunch is ridiculous.

edit: I edited out the last part cause I don't want to bring prior arguments into this.

I can't say anythign about Uncharted 2 yet, haven't had the chance of playing. Mario Galaxy, SSB, LBP, and to an extent Uncharted are platformers or fighting games and don't really have a better equivalent on the PC since they can't really be made well, though many have tried. The equivalent of FPSes and many WRPGs on the consoles is the equivalent of platformers and fighters (without a controller on the PC), just very mediocre (LBP is a pretty shitty platformer  and the uniqueness of it has been on the PC for decades). Also I'm pretty happy playing my old games, it's not my fault I couldn't finish games like Gears 1 (I have a saved game half way thorugh chapter 5 for the past 2 years) because they are boring, simple, dumbed down, and ultimately just not as fun as games that came out decades ago. I also don'd give a damn about graphics so I'm fine with playing those old games.

So then what about stealth games like MGS, racers like Forza and GT, slashers like Ninja Gaiden and GOW and jrpgs. There are more genres but you get the point. The PC is good for you because apparently all you care about is fps games with good campaigns. For everyone else consoles provide something that pc's have simply not provided for a long time now.

Also on the multiplayer side of fps's some, not all, are just as complex as pc fps's and offer just as much competition. Try playing a pro in their respective games of Halo 3, GoW2, COD4 and so on, I gaurantee you get destroyed. Controllers require far more skill to aim well with than mouses, there is a major learning curve to getting good at shooting in a console fps. Although I admit this isn't true for all fps's since some developers dumb down the games by adding auto aim and magnetism but as far as Halo 3 and GoW2 I can tell you they have minimal assists. Just look at the rankings for the top teams on MLG, the top five teams are always there in some order because their skill is so far and above everyone else's.

That's not true, I also care about stealth games and rpgs and strategy. Thief, COmmandos, and Deus Ex (if you go the stealth route) are just better and more far reaching than MGS, especially Thief. As for jrpgs, they are meh, I just see them as weak strategy games with a grind behind them. Racers have gone downhill since going mainly to consoles, Hot Pursuit 2 is still the best racer and I have it on my HDD in fact.

 

As for multiplayer, please don't even start. The reason it takes more skill to master a contoller is because a contoller isn't meant to be used for FPSes. That is also why the skill ceiling is so much higher on a PC than on consoles. Contollers are a huge detriment, it's like racing in the special olympics, yes I will get beat by anyone when I sit in a wheelchair, but you know what? When I stand up and run I will smoke them all. COD4's levellign idea is one of the WORST ideas I have seen in any FPS ever. I wanna fucking shoot people with fucking guns. I don't wanna fucking level up. Leave that for Diablo or WoW or someplace else. It's just a gimmick (horrible one) to keep interest. And minimal assist is a hell of a lot more of an assist than anyone on PCs ever gets when it comes to auto-aim. It makes a HUGE difference, I turn it on in UT2004 and I have nearly 100% accuracy (only works in single-player of course) and it's actually very small too.