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[The Ghost of RubangB]

WereKitten said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:

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2-D Mario platformers are the reason there is an American video game market, so they are the reason we have tons of American FPS games.  Before id Software made Doom, you know what they made?  2-D Mario platformers.  They ported SMB3 to the PC, and asked Nintendo to let them release it.  Nintendo was flattered and said it was a great port, but that they didn't want to make PC games at the time.  So id changed it up into their first Commander Keen game, and the rest is history.

Just to get history straight:

Texture-mapped 3d environments were pioneered in Ultima Underworld by Origin, using technology for scaling that had been used in Wing Commander -  before Wolfenstein 3d and years before Doom. 

You'll find quotes of Carmak himself stating that he started developing the Wolfenstein engine after seeing a tech demo of Ultima Underworld ('91): in Ultima Underworld you could shoot missiles and cast spells in first person, so the simplified FPS was an inevitable subgenre which time had come, and Nintendo had nothing to do with that. Had not Id popularized it, someone else would.

You know, sometimes the history of videogames doesn't circle around Nintendo, like in this case.

Oh my 2 points were supposed to be separate:

1) Nintendo is why we have an American video game market.

2) id loved Nintendo so much they made a Mario port, then when that didn't work out, they made their own 2-D platformer, Commander Keen.  Then they went on to popularize FPS with the Doom craze.

I didn't mean to lump them together to say Nintendo is why id made Doom.  Nintendo just created the modern console era, and the modern booming American video game market that gave birth to the FPS genre.  And id just so happened to also be huge fans of 2-D Mario games.  Everybody was.

I'm 26, and was very much part of the Mario craze and the Doom craze, and those are still some of my favorite games of all time.  While I grew up glued to my NES, my dad was a PC gamer and introduced me to many greats, so I also got my hands on Ultima and Wing Commander at a really young age too.  Yeah, FPS games would have happened eventually, but they were made by Nintendo fans.  Mwahahahaha.