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jefforange89 said:
"F. The game industry has taken vast incredible steps to try and reduce piracy on all consoles."

If game devs are to be believed, they'll be acting against used sales via DD in the near future too. And besides, they're retreating on the DRM issue.

"JJJ!!! Money changes hands when selling. It promotes the industry and stimulates interest in the game, and the gaming economy. NO MONEY changes hands with piracy. It's out and out stealing. You pay for NOTHING."

- I pay for my internet connection
- I pay for my bandwidth
- I pay for a RapidShare account

"It's an ignorant argument, and it amounts to calling anyone whose ever traded in a game, a pirate, and putting us on the same level as pirates, and it's bullshit, insulting, "

Not really. Both cause the industry to lose the same amount of money.

"and SHOULD constitute a BAN."

"I don't agree with you so you can't come here!" Sounds like a great way to run a forum.

Well, actually, I think encouraging piracy hurts the industry, and should be discouraged. I think that encouraging tradeins and rentals helps the industry, because the companies that profit from that are part of the gaming industry themselves. The gaming industry isn't just publishers, afterall. Gamestop is also part of the gaming industry.

I also think that posts implying that the large amount of consumers are "pirates" for trading used games legally, should be considered a profane insult, since to many consider pirates a lower lifeform. I certainly do. They make me sick. If a man will steal a videogame, a man has no morals. That man is a criminal by the law. A federal criminal in the United States.

As for yourself, you seem to have picked and chosen the arguments you could vaguely defend with your piracy rational, and there is no way you could ever actually win this argument, it's silly.

Unfortunately for your argument, the biggest flaw with it, is the one you didn't address. Piracy is illegal. Trading console games isn't. Thus, factually, trading console games isn't piracy, and you are wrong. Isn't that right? Aren't you wrong? Aren't you trying to pass off factual definitions as opinions in an effort to marginalize crimes?

Am I overstating my case. I'm trying to be very clear, because you didn't seem to understand my last post. It's more like you are trying to justify piracy to yourself, by pointing to used gaming as absolution.

Sure, I could point that though certain publishers would prefer a DD model, if they turned their back on retailers now, it would ruin the industry. I doubt shovelware devs would prefer DD. I don't think those little nicnacks you buy at B&M stores would fare too well with a DD only model. Doesn't matter though, point made.

I could also point out that rented games give developers a cut. Or how every single copy of a game sold resulted in the developers directly profiting, while no pirated copy of any game has ever giving profit to the developer. Or how Sony has the technology to lock games to individual PS3's right now, but doesn't use it.

And while I'm sure your rapidshare account is important for stealing, I could also point out that those items you've mentioned aren't exclusively part of the gaming economy, but ya know....buying a game is.

I think it's cute you've tried to stand up for piracy and all, but honestly, it doesn't make you look good to anyone but PC advocates, because people will assume you're either bias, or a pirate yourself.

Do you pirate PC games?

Do you encourage others to do so?

What are the differences in your opinion, between game rentals, borrowings, trading, and the used game culture, and piracy for games on...the PSP, for instance?

Is there a difference, between pirating a PSP game, and borrowing one from your friend?

Speak with me. I have SO many interesting questions.