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solidpumar said:
My ps2 phat never broke. And I live in a tropical 30-40celcius urban full of dust place, used careless, played dvds, scratched discs and backups. Gave it away for my cousin and it still working great, only one controller broke.

Defending the 360 reliability is ridiculous, it is unforgivable as a consumer and I would never buy such unreliable HW that charges for online. Perhaps they will remodel it when natal comes, making even a internal upgrade like some rumors claim (wi-fi, +processing power,blutooth). Maybe them I will buy, but I will never pay for the online.

me too!. my ps2 fat still strong :p just i only bought one controller, and only one.