| Kasz216 said: No... that's still bad statistic that doesn't tell you anything. Also your cherry picking your countries... which is even funnier. Israel and Switzerland for example have low murder rates.
The same is true in regards to gun legislation and murder rates. No correlation within the country. Which is a much most statistically accurate model then the one you are using. When you compare gun ownership and murder rates... within the country. It doesn't correlate.
http://www.swivel.com/graphs/show/26466731?limit_modifier=all&graph[limit]=51&commit=%3E http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-1996-2008#MRord |
Haha, I knew you were going to post a response like this, I could have pretty much said it word for word. You are getting FAR too predictable Kasz nowadays.
I only put a few choice countries as it looked really messy. Now let's not give a shit about messyness and post the study again but "uncherrypicked"...
Country ![]() | % homicides with firearms ![]() | Firearm homicide rate per 100,000 pop. ![]() | Non-firearm homicide rate per 100,000 pop. ![]() | Overall homicide rate per 100,000 pop. ![]() |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Colombia | 85 | 51.8 | 10.9 | 62.7 |
| Guatemala | 75 | 6.97 | 25.5 | 25.47 |
| United States[24] | 65 | 2.97 | 1.58 | 4.55 |
| Costa Rica[24] | 51 | 3.38 | 3.19 | 6.57 |
| Slovakia | 45 | 2.17 | 2.65 | 4.81 |
| Barbados | 40 | 3.00 | 4.49 | 7.49 |
| Germany | 40 | 0.47 | 0.70 | 1.17 |
| Zimbabwe | 40 | 4.75 | 7.24 | 12 |
| Paraguay | 38 | 7.4 | 12 | 19.4 |
| Switzerland | 37 | 0.56 | 0.96 | 1.52 |
| Macedonia FYR | 36 | 1.28 | 2.31 | 3.59 |
| Uruguay | 35 | 2.52 | 4.61 | 7.13 |
| Canada[24] | 34 | 0.54 | 1.04 | 1.58 |
| Belarus | 33 | 3.31 | 6.82 | 10.13 |
| India[24] | 25 | 0.93 | 2.04 | 2.97 |
| Portugal | 25 | 0.85 | 2.45 | 3.31 |
| Qatar[24] | 25 | 0.18 | 0.53 | 0.71 |
| Slovenia | 25 | 0.6 | 1.81 | 2.41 |
| Denmark | 24 | 0.26 | 0.83 | 1.09 |
| Ireland[24] | 24 | 0.32 | 1.01 | 1.33 |
| Hungary | 21 | 0.44 | 1.61 | 2.05 |
| Mexico | 21 | 3.7 | 14.1 | 17.8 |
| Bulgaria | 19 | 0.77 | 3.3 | 4.07 |
| Finland[25] | 19 | 0.43 | 1.94 | 2.19 |
| Lithuania | 18 | 2.24 | 10 | 12.3 |
| Australia | 16 | 0.31 | 1.26 | 1.57 |
| Spain | 16 | 0.25 | 1.25 | 1.5 |
| Estonia | 13 | 1.53 | 8.92 | 10.45 |
| New Zealand | 13 | 0.18 | 1.17 | 1.36 |
| Chile | 11 | 0.18 | 1.37 | 1.55 |
| Latvia | 11 | 1.3 | 10 | 11.3 |
| Azerbaijan | 8 | 0.22 | 2.59 | 2.81 |
| England & Wales[24] | 8 | 0.12 | 1.33 | 1.45 |
| Poland | 7 | 0.43 | 5.61 | 6.04 |
| Moldova, Republic of | 5 | 0.47 | 8.13 | 8.59 |
| Ukraine | 4 | 0.35 | 8.93 | 9.27 |
| Singapore | 3 | 0.03 | 0.92 | 0.95 |
The USA still have the third highest percentage of homicides commited with a gun in this perticular study, right up there with the epitome of nations who have good gun control such as Guatemala and Columbia. 
So why are 65% of homocides in USA committed with firearms? Is this a good thing that America has such a high percentage?









