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It's not that MS is dumb at all as they've done some great things. I just think that they are overeaching by a lot. For example, with Natal, MS thinks that they will caputure the motion detection genre, casual games. They will end up with a product that people dont really see the need for much less the interest after the initual push that MS is giving to developers to make games for their new whizbang toy. It's just not going to work. Now, MS is left with something that will end up being not a success nor failure, but just another peripheral....with not a lot of games to show for after the initial push is over, because in order for developers to want to make games for the natal project, people will have to buy the Natal peripheral like crazy and.....keep buying it.