Nintendo has lost the core market this generation

[Ail]

LordTheNightKnight said:

Ail said:

LordTheNightKnight said:
"Mass market is about lemmings and sheeps..."

Projection. The core flocks around things that the gaming industry touts "HD! Blu-ray! Online!" The mass market has not flocked to any of those, and Nintendo made the Wii to conform to them. They did not conform to the Wii.

Before claiming Nintendo is doing so well with the market market you should compare the adoption rate of the Wii with the one of the IPod or the IPhone. ( or even Blu Ray...)

The curves don't exactly move the same way.

Lets face it many are touting how much Nintendo is innovating but what innovation exactly have they released since Wii Fit ?

Answer : WSR and soon Wii Fit+. Go innovation ! Oh and a new Mario ( which ain't exactly a new franchise...)

 

Not only did you not address my comment, your points here are still wrong.

50+ million sales isn't doing well with the mass market (assuming you made a typo)? Bull. It's had a slowdown (like even the PS2 had at points). That doesn't mean they aren't doing well with the market. It does mean the mass market aren't sheep, or that wouldn't be happening. Nintendo is working on ways to please them, not making the mass market conform to what they make.

iPod took a few years to take off, so it doesn't have the same curve. iPhone was boosted in attention by the iPod. That would be comparable to the next Wii. Blu-ray is still niche. It's not mass market. It's had growth, but its best titles would be great on the Dreamcast, not compared to DVD sales. Blu-ray can't be compared when it's not mass market.

Innovation isn't relevant to this at all, and you're lying about the defintion (hint, it doesn't mean new franchises). It seems you're just trying to throw Wii hate talking points rather than actually discuss things.

 

The Wii is never going to be for me anyway because I came to gaming from reading a lot of scifi and fantasy and there is simply no story telling in the huge majority of Nintendo games ( except Zelda).

And that is what attract a lot of the core gamers, gaming in a way is supposed to be the next step to reading and watching movies.

It immerses you more in the story and allows you to take your own decision that impact the outcome. That is a key feature for me that is simply lacking in the huge majority of Nintendo games.

 

You play Madden because you like football and fantasy football isn't enough for you and you want to be inside the game, drafting your team, controlling your players action on the field.

You play Deadspace or Resident Evil 5 to be immersed in a story, same with Fallout 3 or the soon to come Dragon Age Origins or FFXIII.

Heck why do you think a franchise like GTA is so succesfull ?

 

That is the way the HD console are going, that is the future for me...