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papflesje said:
ironman said:
papflesje said:
@ hephaestos: Sony got a hammering all around for statements that are untrue. Forza 3 should get a hammering for the same thing.

It's weird that when A does it, they get abuse, but when B does it, those same people start defending it.

Sony has said a LOT of wrong stuff in the past and have gotten burnt because of it. Forza 3-people should get the same treatment. "nothing is within years of"? Laughable.

I do find that a bit odd, however Turn 10 is producing one game that they feel is years ahead of anything on the market (that is an opinion btw), Sony flat out lied. So, I fail to see how you can compare the two.

A lie is a lie, whether you portray it as an opinion or not. As others have already demonstrated with an old pc-game, there are things that Forza 3 doesn't do and there will be things in future racers that Forza isn't doing at this moment. It isn't an opinion, it's stated as a fact and that fact is plain wrong. They deserve flak for it, since they're just lying.

You are confusing a lie, and an opinion. If a doctor gives me his "medical" opinion on a medical condition I have, by your logic, I should just call the guy a lier and an arrogant SOB, then go on to compair him to Sony. See how ridiculous that is?

Here is a little reading material fer ya!

Lie –noun

1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.

Opinion –noun

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Lawthe formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.



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