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selnor said:
hsrob said:
zexen_lowe said:
-ku- said:
It's funny how we're assuming PES is going to be better , being the complaint of the Author, when PES has only been better than FIFA once or twice in it's life time.

Second Konami always screws up features for could be amazing games or god games (MGS4 online being an example)

Whaaaaa???

We can argue 2008 and 2009 (I still think that PES 2009 is much better than Fifa 09, at least PC versions), but I think everyone accepts it as a fact that PES owned Fifa in all the PS2 iterations

I'll second that "whaaaaaa?".  Fifa has always had it over PES in presentation and style, but has nearly always played the poorer game according to the vast majority of people who know anything about, play or like football. There may have been several years in the last ten where FIFA got close enough to make it a contest but prior to 2008 i don't think FIFA was ever  the better game.


To be honest PES has always been considered easier to get into, while Fifa took longer to master. Which is why Fifa was always frowned upon. Until recently PES only had 8 directionsto run in. While Fifa has been using full 360 degree movement for ages. PES was more accessable.

While PES may be/have been more accessible this is a gross oversimplification of why it was considered better the better game in the short and the long term. It had far better ball physics, much more intuitive and fluid controls, better player animations, a much better balance between the running and passing game, more varied and realistic ways of scoring goals, player tactics and management that actually influenced gameplay and so on.  I've owned several games in both franchises, and extensively played most of the others, starting since 1995, so accessibly for either franchise was never really an issue for me.  PES (and ISS) was generally just the better and more realistic football game, with its only major shortcomings being the lack of licenses and general presentation.

Since 08 though, FIFA has definitely gotten back into the game with a bang.