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shio said:
KillerMan said:
shio said:
KillerMan said:
BxN said:
The thing is, people always state Crysis to show how great the glorious PC graphics are, but when you think of it, Crysis is the only game that really outmatches the consoles graphics. There's very little multiplatform games that look significantly better on PC than on PS360, and I'm sorry but I've never seen a pc game (not called Crysis) that looked better than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2.

Reason for that is that PC versions are almost always ports from console versions so games are made with consoles limitations and then ported to PC. (saddest example is GTA IV)

Dude, the console versions of GTA IV are around the LOW SETTINGS of the PC version. Even Rockstar themselves said it.

BxN said:
The thing is, people always state Crysis to show how great the glorious PC graphics are, but when you think of it, Crysis is the only game that really outmatches the consoles graphics. There's very little multiplatform games that look significantly better on PC than on PS360, and I'm sorry but I've never seen a pc game (not called Crysis) that looked better than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2.

PC version of GTA IV is very poorly optimized and developed. You need quad core processor, over 2gb RAM and new DX10 graphics card to run it decently. At the beginning game also had so many bugs and glitches that is was almost unplayable. Rockstar made very lazy port.

It further helps my case. Imagine if GTA IV was optimized, the game would've been able to get an even better Top Settings and have lower specs. Optimization aside, it doesn't change the fact that the console versions are only around the low settings of the PC version.

FKNetwork said:
shio said:

There are some people that already argue that PC is more accessible than Xbox 360.

LMAO, nice try shio....

Steam:

  1. Power on PC
  2. Buy Game
  3. Download Game
  4. Play

After you bought the game is like

  1. Power on PC
  2. Play

Steam even streamlines patches and updates, so that you never need to hunt them down.

Console:

  1. Go to Store
  2. Buy Game
  3. Go Back Home
  4. Power on Console
  5. Put in Disk
  6. Play
  7. Put Disk Away After Played

After you bought the game is like

  1. Power on Console
  2. Put in Disk
  3. Play
  4. Put Disk Away After Played
greenmedic88 said:
And Crysis doesn't play at very high settings with playable frame rates on a $400 PC, even assuming the $100 OEM copy of Windows was free.

Not unless you crank down the resolution or are playing on a very small display which pretty much defeats the purpose of all that detail.

I love building overclocked systems as much as the next PC guy, but seriously, you have to call BS when you smell it.

A build that played very high settings, let alone mod extreme settings would require about a $200-300 CPU (a highly overclocked E8400 $165 CPU is about rock bottom for this performance level) and a $300 plus dual GPU VGA solution (at least the equivalent of a HD4870x2) for realistically playable frame rates (no less than 30 fps) at resolutions above 1680x1050 without turning off AA.

A $400 PC still plays Crysis on High Settings, which consoles are unable to. And don't even speak of resolution when most top console games aren't even true HD.

And it's funny you base your argument on resolution. You see, when games like GTA IV, Halo 3, etc.... are around 600p on consoles, you can't criticise PC gamers, because 600p is nearly the minimum resolution that PC games allow these days. Console gamers are basically playing on PC's minimum resolutions.

 

 

Show hardware build specs, play settings and benchmarks or you're just blowing smoke.

Blowing smoke at someone who builds and overclocks systems and knows full well what every bit of hardware is capable of I might add.

And since you brought up resolution; for every game that runs below 1280x720 on a console, there are probably a good 20+ that do.