SciFiBoy said:
starcraft said:
trashleg said:
nah im not ashamed. perhaps i reacted a bit too quickly to reading it, but it just seems like an attack on immigrants to me.
but from what I know of the BNP, they are anti-immigration and white supremacists and THAT is racist, is it not? believing your race to be superior to others, even those born in your own country?
and well said, its okay to post your opinion. and it is my opinion that your post, like the BNP itself, is ignorant, ugly and shouldn't be tolerated.
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There is nothing, NOTHING racist about being anti-immigration.
It doesn't matter if you are white, asian, middle-eastern or black. If you dislike a certain race that is racism. If you think your country is fine with it's current demographic and has economic need for immigrants, that is not racism.
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true, its called Xenophobia!
sorry, had to
problem is, what Slimebeast was saying wasnt simply anti-immigration, but anti-anyone foreign being allowed into any nation (BNP policy support) also, supporting the BNP stance is highly offensive to me, as they would try and kick me and my friends out for not bieng "white christian anglo saxon decent"
so, to be honest, trashleg and me have EVERY right to be very angry at what he said, please do not defend people with such hateful views
also, the UK does have economic need for immigration, they arent many skilled workers in the UK, migrants can do those jobs that brits dont want to do and probably do it better than some of us too, not to mention any freeze on immigration here will significantly impact our EU relations, which in turn will hit trade and thus our economy.
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Xenophobia is a mild label compared to racism.
I didn't say I stand behind the exact policies of BNP. I said I'd vote for them if I was British. You don't have to agree with all the opinions of a party to vote for it, that's pretty obvious. But I'm more critical of the liars and hypocrites and control freaks of the major parties, and its those parties that have the huge majority, especially the media support, not marginalized parties like the national parties in Europe. Besides, a marginilzed party would only have so much effect on the society. To expel Irish people is just laughable, there's no risk something like that could happen.
And why do you twist my words? I'm anti-immigration, but you're describing it as something else: "anti-anyone foreign being allowed into any nation". The majortiy of nationalists have nothing against immigrants who behave themselves and assimilate. You know very well that the issues we have are the negative bi-effects of immigration and culture mixing. National parties would accept controlled immigration under strict conditions.
I am against immigration, you are calling that hateful views. Meanwhile trashleg eats chicken (and maybe you too?), but that doesn't seem to bother you at all.
I'm just denying some people entrance to my country, while you accept the killing of living beings (who don't want to be killed) to end up as food for the taste pleasure of humans.
I think you are the true racist, and your political opinions and ethical positions are offensive to me.
