Lost tears of Kain said:
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Youve still yet to provide a source, and its doing fine, not really poorly in europe. Second 360s total sales 66% is in america so 70-80% in america is actually just fine. And again your giving me no source.
The source is this site. Im too lazy to look for past threads however...
We don't have weekly numbers for euro software, but you can look at the sales of some 360 games to check that they sold by far the most in America, while wii games sell almost as well in Europe than America, but we the Wii owners don't have exact numbers to gloat about this :).
Take Japan in comparision... sure, the xbox 360 may have a good attach ratio there. However with so few consoles being sold, it doesn't really matters. Its the same situation in Europe to a lesser extent, attach ratios doesn't matters when your competition is selling 4x more hardware than you.
Wii, around 140k week in EU... lets say it has an ultra poor attach ratio of 3.0, thats 420k software per week.
xbox 360 around 40k/week... attach ratio of 7.0 = 280k software per week.
Thats why attach rate isn't very important IMO.
IM stating by this, is that even with fantastic 1st party, you have to have huge 3rd party to rule, look at N64, some of the best games ever made, yet without major 3rd party support ps1 dominated. Ps2 dominated because of one thing, completely superior 3rd party support.
Same goes with both the other two consoles, i think in all im stating is wii wont have superior in this, unlike the ps2 did last generation, unless time changes
It can be said that the 360 has the best 3rd party support right now, yet it is not helping a lot... Sony did some great things with the Play station brand, thats why they started strong and with that strong start they gained a lot of 3rd party developers.
Now Nintendo made the right desitions and they started strong, thats why they will have great 3rd party support, however the 360/ps3/pc should share a lot of good 3rd party games as well.
You never said first quarter just early 09, but even with that its still 3.25 to 3.5 million wiis a month
I also never said beginning of 09, and you are just making the average, without taking into consideration that most sales will be on holidays... however i agree that my prediction depends on two factors to be true, a Wii price cut and Nintendo improving their Wii production.
Im technically already have a wii, but still even with those system sellers, its not like the other consoles do not possess others. Ps3 has the best lineup and by stating this your saying the ps3 should just sky rocket as well, heck all 3 consoles should. Again lets go back to what you said above that all consoles sell better in its second half, with this stated your predicting a 200-300 million wii sales after its life time total.
I do not see any system seller for the 360 outside of GTA 4, and Gran turismo 5 for the ps3. Don't expect games like KillZone 2 or Too Human to be system sellers, because they won't be...
Other games like LBP or MGS 4 will only be "small" system sellers IMO... they will sell some consoles, but not a lot. Monster Hunter 3 Wii will be another small system seller, its going to push consoles, but mostly in japan.
Smash bros, Wii Fit, Gran turismo 5, GTA 4 can sell consoles for a long time, almost everywhere around the world.
Final fantasy 13 would be another one, however i don't expect that game until 09.
profits for the victory of the console maker yes, but victory for the console owner is attach rates because attachment rates lead to more companys maing more games for that system which then = more games
Read previous posts about attach rates and why they don't matter. Capcom is not worried about Konami having good or bad sales on the Wii. As long as the Wii keeps doing well in software sales, and as long as they make profits from their own games, they won't care about how many games Wii owners are playing.
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