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Kasz216 on 21 September 2009
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Zucas said:
Kasz216 said:

No. He used the south as an example citing the fact that the hate might be coming from anti-semetic West Virginians. Which doesn't hold up.

Since if this was the case we would see similar numbers from other anti-Semitic people... which are normally republicans.

This is logically sound.

If group A.  Antisemtic people are the cause for position A (Seeing israel as an enemy)

Then a group with much more of group A is going to have a much higher portion of people who beleive group A.

 

Example.  Very religious democrats are anti-abortion.  This can be show by very reigious republicans being anti-abortion.

 

Due to a near complete lack of belief in population B of this.  Antisemetic people being the main source of the 7% can be ruled out.

This is basic social science logic.

I don't argue logic as there is only one logic.  Manus never stated anything about the south, anti-semitism, or what party anti-semites side with.  Actually his post never even includes those words in general.  His entire argument was that not all democrats are liberals and not all republicans are conservatives.  Party distinction does not conclude ideology basically.  He simply used a state in particular as example.  How sound his argument is not necessarily great as he did make an assumption about your argument. 

But your response has absolutely nothing to do with anything he said as you go on about the south, anti-semtism, and party affiliation thereof along with region.  That is why it is a straw man argument and eventual logical contradiction. 

So no your argument is not logically sound as it did not represent the argument Manus presented.  I'm not saying Manus's argument was good either (hasty generalization thrown in with his) but we all abide by the same logic. 

No, the fact that not all democrats are liberal infact REINFORCES my point.

The fact that they share populations actually is what makes the logic sound.

If all democrats were liberals only 7% of liberals thinking Israel is the enemy wouldn't be much.


There are Liberals, Conservatives and Moderates are in both parties.  Therefore demographic modeling can be done by comparing the two groups.