The fight over Darwin - Teaching evolution in schools

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appolose said:

Rath said:

appolose said:

Rath said:

 

The math did work (and has been done) so can you come up with a situation that would actually meet the criteria I stated earlier?

I don't think there are any which don't violate the laws of logic.

Whether or not it did or does is not the issue.  "If it didn't" is what I'm saying (you did say it didn't have to be real observation)

If the math didn't work then we would have to change the current model of the laws of physics until the maths did work, or if there actually was a supernatural cause then science would simply leave it un-explained forever. There simply isn't a way for science to accept the supernatural that doesn't involve breaking logic.

I mean if the math didn't work for supporting the idea that the laws of physics did not apply at the beginning of the universe, not that math doesn't work at all.

And you can't leave something unexplained (by unexplained, I assume you're talking about contradictory).  Either science is wrong or there is a supernatural cause; leaving it unexplained would be breaking logic.

Is it true that they haven't completely reconciled quantum mechanics and "normal" mechanics?  If so, does that break logic?  

On the other hand, look at this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox

Now this seemingly was a contradiction of the type you propose, right?  Two scientific views that appeared to conflict and yet were each upheld by experiments.  Right?  But science eventually (apparently) came up with a solution that didn't involve God.  

(I loved science classes but I never majored in any of this crap by a long shot so anyone can feel free to bitch slap me with some facts.)