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Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:

"Had Washington not only refused but made a speech that disauded them... someone else might of even taken over."

Not sure what you mean by that, since he DID do those things ... maybe you meant "had not"?

Anyway, the real question there is, 'What would have come of it had Washington not stepped in so effectively?' And we don't know. Maybe he made a huge change there -- I'm skeptical (though I confess lacking any in-depth knowledge here). Certainly he did so much for the revolution that it seems hard to believe that any single man could have stepped in for all of it had he not been there.

No.  What i propose is that Washington telling him men that they shouldn't rebel was something no one else would of been willing to do.

As that showed the reset of the army was ready to mutiny.


The thing is... with people like Washington and Churchill we DO know.  We know because they were the ONLY People saying the things they were at the times they were.

Everyone else of an equal position and standing was of the opposite opinion.

Unlike Darwin who had numerous people of the same opinion.

If my suggestion on correcting your sentence is incorrect, we are back to the sentence as written not making sense to me, since he did those things and no one took over.  Perhaps "Had" shouldn't even be there??  Then it would also mesh with your sentiment. 

Also, isn't it true that sometimes people will only speak up if no one else says what they want to -- i.e., someone else might have taken their place (if perhaps not quite as effectively), especially if their specific position was held by that other person (as they aren't in it)?

(I admit that I seem to recall sociology being your thing, and it isn't mine.)

And is it certain that the officers as a whole were discontent (as opposed to some of them) and is it considered likely that they would have actually deserted/rebelled/whatever but for that speech (as opposed to grumbling and lower morale)?



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