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Senlis said:

I'm glad we agree on some points.  Let my clarify the ones you responded to.

A.  You previous post: "Dependability is a common issue with all hardware, and gives no advantage to either side. However, consoles do come with warranties, and built PCs do not." You never really said what the problem with dependability is.  If you are referring to how all hardware eventually fails, well yea that's true.  What I think of a dependability problem are consoles failing within 2-3 years.  That is horrible dependability.  The RROD from the XBOX360 is caused by heat issues.  I can easily increase the ventilation of my PC.\

I have a pelican fan stand on my 360 as well as a nyko intercooler TS. I also have 2 external exhauts I bought off ebay, modded onto my old PS3. If my 360 burns up tomorrow, it'll be replaced for free, the PS3 and Wii will probably take years and years to melt down.

You can easily mod consoles for cooling issues.

I guess you are saying build computers as a whole do not have warranties.  My motherboard is built by ASUS.  It has amazing dependability, warranty and customer support.  I remember one time that I flashed my ROM chip incorrectly and turned my computer into an expensive paperweight.  I called ASUS, and even though my motherboard was no longer under warranty, they sent me a new ROM chip already flashed.  I think the only gaming company that has comparable customer support may be Nintendo.

Back to Dependability is a issue because all hardware fails eventually.  You didn't refute my point that parts are easier to obtain and replace in a PC.

Better (according to Webster): improved in accuracy or performance.

Subjective (according to Webster): characteristic of or belonging to reality as perceived rather than as independent of mind.

According to Webster, KB/M is 'better'.

C.  Maybe I can explain my point better with an analogy.  Are manual transmission cars better than automatic cars, or is it just a matter of preference?  Manual transmission cars 1) Get better gas mileage 2) Give you better control over the car 3) has less maintenance on the transmission 4) transmission lasts longer.  Automatic transmission cars 1) are easier and more convenient to drive.

I already said in my previous post that a mouse is more accurate than motion controls or a joystick (positional based vs. velocity based).  That is a fact.  If you prefer joystick or motion controls over the mouse/keyboard, I won't fault you for it.  You never did disprove that a mouse is more accurate, you just keep saying it cannot be proven.

A mouse is more accurate in most cases, but it's also worse in many cases as well. Some games are built around joystick controls and impossible to play with a mouse(down-forward+HP). The PC supports joystick as well, however so does the console. However, the PC doesn't support games that I know of, with motion controls. Those controls greatly increase the enjoyment of games like Flower. So, it's really subjective which platform has better controls.

"If PC gaming died tomorrow, how would it affect consoles?"

PC pushes forward the graphics technology industry the same way Nascar pushed forward the automobile industry.  If PC gaming died tomorrow, advances in video games would come much slower.

If Console gaming died tomorrow, core HDPC gaming would die the next day, and would gaming even be worth playing without Zelda, Mario, Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo? There would be no more millions sunk into top end games, except for Blizzard and maybe Valve. Without console sales, it would be an unsustainable industry(the high end core game), considering development costs. It would be like removing the movie theater from the equasion of viewing purchases of films. It would be an end of all we know of gaming, and a huge disaster.

If PC gaming ended, graphics wouldn't improve as fast?

Which one is more important to the industry?

"Wow, I've had a lot of great responses to my last post, and honestly, I didn't think that you guys stood a chance. I know that shio spends his existance arguing this, but I'm really quite convincing on this subject, and the fact that you were able to form decent argument has vastly impressed me."

Thanks.  I appreciate someone who likes a good debate.

@twesterm

"So, no, you didn't just shoot down my 3 reasons.  Stop assuming everyone has the same hard on for PC gaming you have.  I hate PC gaming and your endless ranting about how great it is isn't going to change that just like my endless ranting about console gaming will never change your mind."

Seriously?  You "hate" PC gaming.  Those are some strong words.  I don't even hate the xbox360, even though I would never buy one.

He's a spoony bard, ain't he?

Thanks. :)



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.