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MontanaHatchet said:
RPG said:
Well say with Forza 2 it came with every pro console sold for a short time and it was not possible to get the console without Forza 2. For bundles such as Halo 3 that was not the case as people whom wanted it got it however they could still get the pro by itself. So one could get the console stand alone or with Halo 3 but with Forza 2 it was standard with every pro console sold.

It's clear to me what the difference is however my IQ does exceed that of a banana.

Well then, excluding the fact that I couldn't find a source to confirm that, that's not really true. Forza 2 might have come with every pro 360 sold for a short time, but it didn't come with every 360. The sales numbers shows that. So by your definition, it was very much possible to get a 360 without Forza 2, and your example is wrong. You could buy a 360 with Forza 2 or without it. As for Halo 3, it had been a standalone game for a long time before it was bundled with the 360. So basically, neither game fits your definition of a pack-in. And I'd like to actually see some kind of source to back up these definitions. It shouldn't be so hard if they're the correct ones.

And that sounded like an insult to me, although you do come from NeoGAF, so that's no surprise.

I don't think RPG was saying that Halo 3 was also a pack-in. I think he was using Forza 2 as an example of a pack-in versus Halo 3 as an example of a bundle.

Not that I care, tbh, as I don't see any valuable distinction between the two terms.