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selnor said:
Scoobes said:
selnor said:

It's because the PC version doesn't affect the console version. And before you say, well my sale is lost because I'll buy on PC. That is honestly not the case generally. In fact look at the dismal PC sales of a game on both and it's very clear that maybe 2000 sales at the most would be lost for the 360 version being on PC also? Look at COD4. It was embarrasing for PC in sales.

Just thought I'd get in my 2 cents. If what you say is true then why would Microsoft bother saying and making Alan Wake completely exclusive for 360. Why haven't they brought out Halo 3, Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 out for PC? Why did they wait 6 months before they released Mass Effect on PC. This is especially important for PC centric markets. Saying the PC version doesn't affect the console version is bullshit if they're released at the sametime. Microsoft have recognised this, which is why these games are now true and complete exclusives.

You're also forgetting that if certain people can get a version on PC vs console... they'll pirate the PC version and get it for "free". This is the reason EA released Mirror's Edge on consoles before PC, even though it works a lot better with the precision of the mouse.

Finally, the FF7 case is a case of 'timed' exclusivity, which is why most feel it can be called exclusive, because for a significant amount of time (in which it had huge sales) it was. The same could be said of the Halo games. If they were released at the sametime, then arguably, they'd have had less sales on the console (especially in the case of Halo where FPS games are popular on PC). Oh, and MS get more money from console versions due to licensing fees. They get no money on the PC version unless they're the publisher.

Dude seriously look at the sales. It tells all. They release it first on consoles mainly because thats where the sales come from. They put most effort to getting the console version done on time and then bring PC later. They see the same sales we do, so there is no way they release it later because of sales. LOL

Alan Wake went exclusive because M$ wanted Remedy to get the most out of the 360 game graphically. It must of worked to, because there are some graphics whores who dont believe the 360 is that strong for graphics calling certain screenshots PC screenshots. Even though it's confirmed as 360 screen. If you put all resources into a game for the major selling platform first, you will get better return.

Mate, I didn't say they're not releasing a title on console and PC at the sametime down to JUST sales, but due to the sales AND piracy. A lot of pirates, if a game is available for PC on torrent websites vs console (where they have to pay money), are going to get it on PC via torrent for FREE. This will eat into sales of both the PC and console versions. Also, don't gorget MS is trying to make gains in Europe where Sony are relatively strong. There are a lot of PC centric markets based in Europe where MS would suffer if they brought out a PC version.

If you want to believe that MS decided to scrap the PC version of Alan Wake for graphics then fine. Personally I still think its down to pushing the 360 as a console with full exclusive titles. Especially when PC and 360 are so similar in architecture that they probably were already getting a great deal out of the 360. Also, that still doesn't explain why they haven't the piss easy job of porting Halo 3, Gears 2 and Fable 2 to the PC yet. Its because they're trying to push the 360 as a console with fully exclusive games... not just "console" exclusives.