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Carl2291 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Carl2291 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

We can more accurately predict the games quality, than we can its sales. It'll be pretty good. Sales will be mediocre because the PS3 can't launch new IPs.

Just to name a couple...

Little Big Planet? Uncharted?

I meant to be successful saleswise.

Now, sure, those games were successful saleswise, but they were also very highly touted, and had great legs, and either amazing reviews, or great word of mouth from the Sony community, and/or no competition in the genre.

Killzone 2 had all of those things, and its sales have been unfortunate.

Can a game pull a couple million off as a new IP?

Oh hell yeah.

It just better be LBP, the most hyped game of all time, and "huge" or Uncharted, which launched when there was nothing else to play on the console, and which still sells to this day, due to unbelievable post launch hype and word of mouth.

Still, would you consider those sales "good?"

Do you think mediocre means "bad?"

If the game isn't good, it's going to flop, and if it is great, it'll still probably only perform ok. The PS3 and the Wii, have a hard time launching new IPs to successful sales.

What, you don't agree?

Anything above 2 million for a new IP is good no matter what the console is.

And you just called LBP the most hyped game of all time...

What new IP's other than Gears has the 360 then sold "good" in your opinion?

So no, i dont agree.

Well, I never said the 360 was amazing at launching new IPs. I just said it wasn't bad.

Also, on this forum, LBP was the most hyped game of all time. The phrase "LBP will be huge" was serious and iconic.

And yes, due to marketing, and its marketing power in trendsetting areas, I do think the 360 would be good at launching new IPs, assuming they use marketing power.

Also, I did say that LBP and Uncharted were successful saleswise.

Crackdown sold pretty well to be a non-hyped game. So did Gears of War, but it was hyped. Left 4 Dead sold great on the console, as well as PC. Shadow Complex has quickly became one of the top selling XBLA games. GRAW sold over 2 million and spawned a sequel.

Those games launched pretty well on the Xbox.

There have been a number of notable flops on the PS3 that despite selling well, did underperform. The only new IP I can think of on the PS3 that really blew the roof off the joint were early titles that were pretty much staples in the library of most early PS3 owners. Resistance and Uncharted, to name a couple.

Maybe it's just a misconception by me.

 

I think that I should put it this way.

I don't think that the PS3's software sales are generally any worse than the 360s.

Instead, I think that new IPs and sequels are adopted quickly by the mass audience, due to Microsoft's marketing power, and the nature of XBL.

Sony sells the software to games that people know about, but has a hard time informing people about new games that aren't already popular, instead having to rely on its fan community to spread the word. AKA Viral Marketing. Which works, but just not as good as real marketing.

So, you get stuff like Killzone 2 selling under 2m copies. That is Sony's failure.



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