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GranTurismoHelperMax said:
daroamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
daroamer said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
Have the 360 and PS3 ever been the same price before? I would imagine if the PS3 can manage top beat it when it's more expensive half the time it shouldn't have issues at the same price point.

The 360 is 199, the PS3 is 299.  They are not the same price. 

The 360 Elite is now 299, just like the PS3, but they were both 399 until price cuts, so yes, the PS3 and 360 have had skus at the same price for a while.

Difference now is, PS3 was never mass market price, and now it is.

True but he was saying they were the same price, which they are not. 

Certainly it will do better at 299 but I disagree that that's the mass market price.  The 360 wasn't doing gangbusters at 299, sales didn't really pick up until it hit 199.  199 is the mass market price point IMO.  Although the Wii has shown that 250 can do okay! :P

In any event, the 360 is still 100 bucks cheaper and for a lot of christmas shoppers that 100 makes a difference.

mostly true but im guessing that xbox buyers will go with the fully-loaded version which is the elite bcus it does include the hd. Unless some stores, such as wal-mart, bundle the arcade like last year, then the arcade may be the selling better version but the smart ones no that w/o a hard driver the 360 wont be able to take full advantage of the online features.

I think the mistake a lot of people make is that the general public cares as much about specs and things like wi-fi as people like us on gaming forums do.  Sure, a LOT of people care which is why the pro and elites were half of the 360s that sold, but I think a far greater number of peopel just buy what their friends have and what's popular.  The PS2 was not the best technical system and lacked the standard HD that the Xbox had but that didn't matter at all, it was the hot item and that what people bought.  Just like the Wii was the hot item this generation, and it's why it's still been outselling the cheaper Xbox 360.