@ johnlucas, this has basically thrown your prediction into everyones face 
i mean i was guessing there would be roughly 6 million Wiis available November and December, which before meant 18.5-19 million Wiis by the end of the year....Now i am certain of a minimum of 19, but probably near if not over 20 million.
Griffin..... In the UK i see generally 5-10 360s per games shop i go in (there may be more in the back).
Last christmas Microsoft shipped a life-to-date of 10.4 million 360s to retail yet not even 8 million sold to consumers.....this is something Sony does quite a lot too, if you look at the PSP shipments they seem to be really high, then really low...thing is, Microsoft hasn't slowed down the rest of this years shipments to compensate for the mass of extras last christmas, so their shipments have basically kept in line with the 360 selling rate, even though they went over by 2 million last christmas.
