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the sad thing is that, last generation, gamecube was seen as a kiddy console, by the kidds! the kidds did'nt buy gamecube, they bought xbox or ps2. it's really sad that you are sitting here and saying that gamecube and wii are consoles for kidds, because that means you have an aged opinion about kiddy consoles and games. obviously kidds these days love violence blood and gore, wouldn't you agree? ...I also wonder how the f**k this discussion grow so big, kwaafghff is obviously trying to provoc nintendo fanboys, and it works...maybe we feel a little bit tensed. it must be because sony has always copied nintendo, and then passed in the sales lists...so this thing with the gloves is a bit disturbing, I can admit that, but I do know for sure that a console for 6k vill never be a big seller. when they lower their price I will shit my pants...but could it be to late by then?, they've almost lost all their big franchises at this point...