highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
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highwaystar101 said:
A. I was laughing because it just seems like such an unbelieveably high figure.
B. Whilst I am wrong technically (16% - 17%, whatever), I am not wrong in my unbelief because 42% of those households only have one person eligible for employment and so it is a cherry picked statistic to make the situation sound *a lot* worse than it actually is. 17% of households makes you think *WOW* until you look at the figures behind it, then it becomes more reasonable.
And it's about unemployment not leechiness, not all unemployed people are on the dole and the vast majority of the people who have recently become unemployed due to the economy are anything but lazy. Fair enough you get the 1-2% that is lazy but the vast majority of recent cases are people who are down on their luck.
In fact there is nothing more than they would like to do than get back into employment, the people who are currently losing their jobs due to the economy are not lazy and leeching of society at all, trust me. In fact it's made me a little upset that you are trying to bring laziness into a debate about recent rises in unemployment figures.
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You really have good faith in people. I estimate it being 20% lazy people in Sweden dodging work, getting all sorts of wellfare to avoid work, blaming unemployment, health problems, social problems, anti-social behaviour, addiction or whatever.
Even if I respect Britons a lot more than Swedish people, it must be well over 10% lazy people in Britain too.
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I do have good faith in people, you remind me of my dad in a way because he says the exact same thing.
My dad pays 40% of his wage in taxes, while we both agree that 40% is FAR too high he occasionally takes it out by stereotyping the people it goes too, which I don't think is fair. Why? Because he once made 20 people redundant in one day and he later complained about how people on welfare are lazy. Those 20 people wanted a job, it's just that he had to downsize after a project. So 20 genuine people would have had to go looking for jobs the next day... They were not lazy people.
With all the downsizing going on at the moment I would have real trouble believing that the people who are signing on are doing it because they are lazy. The vast majority of people are genuine cases right now.
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Of course if unemployment quickly goes up, lets say from 5% to 10%, quite a high proportion of those extra 5% are indeed not leeches. Really, Im not talking about the Crysis here. I'm talking about the permanent leeches of the typical welfare state.
