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ioi said:
I have to be consistent guys. If I'm going to list Super Mario World at 20 million, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 at 6 million, Super Mario Bros at 40 million, Gran Turismo 3 at 14 million and so on then I am also going to include Wii Sports bundle "sales", Motorstorm bundle sales, Daxter bundle sales and so on. I'm sure at some point in the future Wii Sports will not be packed-in with all new Wiis sold and may even surface as a stand-alone SKU.

You only have to look to Japan, where both games are sold at a budget rate (same price as something like Brain Training I believe) and they are far and away the biggest sellers on Wii. To just remove sales for the West because they come bundled with a controller (which you pay extra for) and a console (ditto, although you have no choice) is insane, people still play those games and Japan has proven that they are easily the two most popular Wii titles.

ALL bundled games are counted in sales. When Sony / Nintendo release "total software shipments" info on financial reports this includes bundle sales, same as when they report individual game shipments.

NPD don't report the sales in their SOFTWARE reports, but if you get their full hardware data you have breakdowns per hardware SKU and therefore bundled game sales are counted along with the hardware. Just because they chose to do it that way doesn't mean they are right or wrong. If a retailer choses to create their own bundles then the software sales will show up in NPD software, it is only manufacturer bundles that do not.

It is a grey area and I see no other way of tackling it. Those who suggest I am trying to paint Wii sales in a better light are seriously misguided and should really leave this site.

Thanks

ioi

So we should expect Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance on 360 to rise soon as they are bundled with 360 in the US?  And then Forza 2 and Viva Pinata in Japan and Australlia?

Just curious...  Not trying to stir the pot...

I don't really care about which logic is applied...  I just think it should be applied evenly...  And if it is that's good enough for me... 

PS:  Might be a good feature on the site to exclude bundle sales through a filter going forward...