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highwaystar101 on 19 August 2009
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TheRealMafoo said:
highwaystar101 said:

It occurs to me that conservatives have two main problems with national healthcare. The first is that a social system does not introduce an element of competition that the private sector which results in an inefficient service. The second is that the healthcare you recieve is equal to all other classes who wish to use it

I am not a conservative, but I do think like them with respect to healthcare, so I think I will respond.

First off, neither of your points are the problem I have with healthcare. I don’t care about competition for the sake of competition, and in a perfect world, everyone would get the best heath care possible.

The goal everyone wants. Is US’s best healthcare (the best in the world) available to all. This is impossible. One of those two has to give. We can either sacrifice the quality of care, or sacrifice the ease in which it’s obtained.

Conservatives say I want the best healthcare, just give me the opportunity to earn it.

Liberals say I want the best healthcare that can be provided to all. It won’t be as good as the best, but if everyone gets it, it’s worth the sacrifice.

There is no way to make these two groups of people happy. So, the debate about socialization continues.

I've always thought of you as a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. But one that doesn't label themselves as such.

That's a fair statement, there is no way to keep both groups happy of course and of course you know I'm a firm believer that a national helathcare system is worth the sacrifice. The NHS isn't bad at all, the level of care for all is fairly decent so the sacrifice is worth it in our case, plus you can also go private in the UK if you wish.

But to discuss your point about the conservatives wanting the best and just needing the opportunity to earn it. Do you not think that my second idea would go someway to counteract that problem? I mean obviously it wouldn't be perfect for many reasons, but you would be recieving the best service available without going private based on what you earn, which in some way would be rewarding to the same end.