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Kasz216 on 16 August 2009
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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
 

Urgh. There is just so much wrong with this post. I'm just going to point out that in a privatised system the poor aren't given proper healthcare at all because they can't afford it. Its the reason why nearly 50M Americans are uninsured.


NHS and other socialised systems aren't perfect, but they aren't broken like the American system.

 

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649


The USA has a much lower mortality rate then the UK does for people over 75%.  The old are biased against after paying their entire lives into a system. 

 

If there needs to be bias in a system... it should at least be for the people who aren't paying rather then be biased against people who are paying for healthcare.

However, that isn't even the case.


Fact No. 5: Lower income Americans are in better health than comparable Canadians. Twice as many American seniors with below-median incomes self-report "excellent" health compared to Canadian seniors (11.7 percent versus 5.8 percent). Conversely, white Canadian young adults with below-median incomes are 20 percent more likely than lower income Americans to describe their health as "fair or poor."[5]

Ever notice how blatantly cherry-picked those facts are? Things like 'white Canadian young-adults with below median incomes', there are three seperate limitations on that! Ethnicity, age and income.

 

They took the number of people taking statins as evidence that the entire sector of chronic diesease is better in America than the rest of the world!

 

In fact number seven, as a citizen of NZ, I know that the fundamental change people are asking here is for the complete socialisation of our healthcare system - currently its only compulsory government insurance for accidents - not for anything else. There has been quite a lot of pressure on our government to extend ACC. What they said was a blatant misrepresentation.

 

They take statistics about individual cancers and fail to note that overall cancer deaths per 100,000 are higher in the USA than in the UK. Argh.

 

Please can you post a less hideously biased source?

I'm just matching your hideously biased sources from the other thread.

Additionally... your wrong.

For every Death in the UK for cancer there were 3.4 Deaths in the US. (2007 numbers)

For every person in the UK there are 5 in the US.

155,484 deaths for the UK VS 553,888 deaths for the US