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griffinA on 15 August 2009
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MontanaHatchet said:
puffy said:
patapon said:

I agree that an alternative 'playground' for developing games is good. But unfortunately, sales for 3rd party developers on the Wii aren't all that peachy.

BTW, thanks for cutting the legs out from under me in your double post of this thread :P

3rd party sales on Wii aren't peachy? I can tell you, that is false..

Besides that, the market was shrinking in that the total number of people that play was getting smaller and smaller. I'd say most of the growth in the console sales growth last generation was due to multiple console ownership. For example having two PS2's, one in each kids bedrooms. Something that was less likely to occur with the PS1/N64/Saturn generation.

So Nintendo decided to create a disruptive console, one that would attract new consumers but gradually move up market and attract core users. Motion controls will take over from traditional controls next year and Wii will no longer be a disruptive product. That's where the Vitality Sensor will come into it. Natal can replicate motion controls and mimic the Balance Board to a certain degree but it won't be able to replicate the Vitality Sensor.

Anyway, the Wii hasn't taken any bullets as you say, it's Sony and Microsoft that has taken all the fire because exsisting companies are nearly always doomed when faced with disruption.

Indeed, he's wrong. 3rd party sales on the Wii are fantastic (even though it varies from game to game like any other system). However, I'll have to disagree with you on the second paragraph. The market was definitely staying stagnant or decreasing (6th generation had roughly 250 million consoles sold, 5th generation had roughly 260 million, but my math is rough). Trust me, the whole "multiple systems" thing is BS. It's great that each of your kids has their own PS2, but that's not the norm. And frankly, if we want to talk multiple ownership, it's far more likely that someone would buy their kids their own Gameboy or Gameboy Advance. And since the Gameboy was so cheap and popular back in the day, it had that advantage more to itself. So no, you're wrong with that paragraph.

I've never bought the multiple console ownership that much either but what I do buy is the opening up of other regions to gaming falsely made it seem like the current gaming population was growing instead of declining.



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