Piracy not theft because its a copy..

[Kasz216]

superchunk said:

L.C.E.C. said:

Rath said:
Yeah I had the feeling that you were joking around with the Jesus thing, but I couldn't resist the bait when you said that nobody had refuted it =P

Oh, I was totally joking around with the Jesus-brand-wine.

However, I still think that by what some (outrageous) people think today (NOTE: People by superchunk's standard), that people are sooo greedy that Jesus would get the same hate that pirates get today.

Someone would try to sue and say that it was too similar to their brand of wine or something like that... The worst part is that since Anascape won against Nintendo, I think the other guy might win the suit... Which is why it will forever remain in my sig now as a quotation.

I'm sure if Jesus had come now instead of then, and he had come along someone in the desert, who needed a way out, and he made that person a car to leave with (out of the surrounding sand), generic or not, then I'm sure that between GM, Ford, Chrystler, Toyota, Honda, ect., that someone would get pissed and try to sue. My point is that we are able to make what about as recent as 50 years back would have been considered miraculous replication, and people seem to try to hate the people who do it.

@ the fictitious wine story and the one about rice krispy treats.

In both cases the are products that are general and widely used prior to being boxed/bottled for retail. Thus completely different than software content.

Now, if Jesus had placed a Corvina label on the side of the barrel, then yes he'd be a pirate. Guess that would solve the pirates vs ninjas arguement. :)

Well, I'm done with this thread. Its run its course. Pirates will never admit taking someones content without consent is theft simply because they have no fear of getting caught.

Yeah.  I'm not a pirate.  I'm just pointing out the ridiculious fallacies in your arguement.

It's not illegal to copy just about anything.

You ignored my art gallery thing... probably because you know it had you dead to rights. 

You can copy all the paintings you want and it's legal.

Hell its even legal to make copies of games if you do everything yourself.  That's why most EULA's prohibit backengineering.  Because it's not actually illegal if they don't and people could make all the WOW servers and stuff they want.

It's only illegal because it's easy.  It's that obvious. 

It's actually not illegal for me to copy corvina wine.  If i know their recipie and were to make it.  That would actually NOT BE ILLEGAL.

The only thing that would make it illegal would be if i sold it as Corvina wine.

note.  Sold.

Pepsi recently had the oppurtunity to buy the Coke secret formula.  Had they done so only the person who sold it would of been the criminal and Pepsi could of made all the "Pepsi Classic" or whatever they wanted to.

All they couldn't do is sell it as "Coca-cola." or "Coke."

They could make Coca-cola and give it away all they wanted for free and it wouldn't matter.  The only reason it would be illegal is the name.