Piracy not theft because its a copy..

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L.C.E.C. said:

Rath said:
@LCEC. Jesus wouldn't be a pirate. Turning water into wine is not a breach of intellectual property as the 'design' of wine doesn't belong to anybody. If he had turned the water into a specific wine perhaps he would have case to answer to.

Yes, but someone had to have invented wine? Why didn't we find it as a crime(As I'm sure the Pharases[SP?] wanted to)? Wine has a history dating back to around 6000 BC so if they'd acutally cared back then, then I'm sure they would have been angry at him. Even if you want to go to a more specific copyright, the wine he made was probably: 1. locally influenced, or 2. actually a copy of someone else's. If Jesus invented his own brand of wine, I'm sure, since everyone loved it at the party, it would exist today. However, since I've never heard of "Jesus Wine", I'd say this is not true.

Because there were no intellectual property rights, no-one cared, because the people who made the wine still depended on sales, not a paycheck from other people using that "Intellectual property".

 LOL It starts getting weird...

Another ridiculous example would be, that since every use of copirighted material counts as copyright infringement, even many of the avatars, signatures, article screensots, and other materials on this site are illegal to use. 

Every time you take a screenshot, create or use a modded game, watch some Rick Astley music video on youtube, or quote from a book, you illegally manipulate with someone's IP.

Of course pirating the whole thing is a bit extreme, but it just shows that old laws and new technologies don't make much sense together. 

 

amp316 said:
I said what I wanted to say earlier. Nothing to add there.

I just wanted to say that I was called a luddite for the first time in my life. That's the only intersting thing to happen in this thread besides for the usual I want things for free and to not feel badly about it stuff.

"The Luddites were a social movement of British textile artisans in the early nineteenth century who protested—often by destroying mechanized looms—against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, which they felt were leaving them without work and changing their entire way of life.

The term "Luddite fallacy" has become a concept in neoclassical economics reflecting the belief that labour-saving technologies (i.e., technologies that increase output-per-worker) increase unemployment by reducing demand for labour." -Wikipedia

 

You  clearly stated that you wouldn't make your own copy of a Ferrari, if it would be possible, because this would harm the industry.