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superchunk said:
FayeC said:
superchunk said:
FayeC said:
Its not theft because that content is not being taken, its being copied. Now its being copied "without permission or consent" so that does indeed make it copyright infringement, just not theft.

You can't even consider it theft of a potential sale. If I steal a game off of a shelf or a shipping truck, THAT is theft of a potential sale.

On the other hand, you can only assume that a person would have bought a game were they not willing to pirate it.

Its the same thing you are acquiring it without permission or consent. Theft.

Its not being taken from anyone, so it is not theft. If I find 50 dollars on the ground and keep it, its isnt theft and this is in a situation where there is a discernable loss to someone. Much less is it theft when nothing has been taken from anyone, as per the definition

Finding money on the ground and purposefully making a copy of money are not the same thing. Furthermore, if you find money you should first try to find its owner.

Otherwise, its not much different from theft.

Is it stealing to purposefully make a copy of rice krispy treats?

I mean.  They sell those in stores.

If so... everyones mother should be in jail.

 

Intellectual propery laws are nessisary because for some reason we use the same model to sell infintly easy to duplicate things that have no "physical" costs as we do nearly impossible to copy stuff with a lot of physical costs.

Basically software and other such things should have a different model.  But until they do... it's the best we can come up with.  It's not theft though.

Hell it's hard to even argue it's abjectly wrong... but instead just currently wrong because of how screwed up our world is in trying to sell such products.

 

For an opposite example.  Child Labor.  Abolishing child labor in third world countries is actually wrong.  Everytime a government is pressured to do it... it just leads to the child death rates to skyrocket as orphans can't make money to live.

however is it really wrong to ban child labor?  No.  But because of the circumstances it is in that instance.


Piracy is wrong... but only because of the instance that people are trying to sell software... in reality a differnt buisness model should be used.  But because of special interest groups we have the situation we have now.

As such I won't pirate.  Since sales are how the devs get there money... but it shouldn't be that way.  Stuff like advertising during online play, sponserships and collecting money by sellinge beta keys and the like are the way it should work.

People are almost treating it as if someone tried to charge for a movie that was being shown in the middle of a public park.