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nightsurge said:
ssj12 said:
nightsurge said:
The Cell at 11nm by the end of this generation? I highly doubt that. No manufacturing process for CPU's has reached that low and I doubt they will be able to within the next 2-3 years... 32nm or in the 20's is about as low as I'd expect the Cell or any current gen CPU to reach.

Actually I se it happening. Intel already announced they expect 11nm by 2014 and if the PS3 lasts the full 10 years they expect or close to it they can release the PS4 in 2014 with an 11nm Cell because IBM is always faster at shrinking their CPUs then Intel and the Cell is an IBM product.

Also while that chart says somethings like I said back ages ago in one of the first posts in this thread. Sony already has a chart representing the evolution of the Cell. They stated in 2005 11nm by 2014, Cell v2 will be in the PS4 after 11nm is acheived, and a Micro Cell will be in the PSP2.

By 2014, much more possible.  I thought you said by next gen, which would be 3-4 years (2012-2013).  I guess I don't see why they would keep shrinking it, though, after the next gen starts.  Did they keep shrinking the PS2's chips after the PS3 launched?  And it wouldn't actually launch a Cell v2 at 11nm then.  Any new chip, especially one with that many added SPE's, will probably start at 45nm or 32nm at the smallest.  But again I'm mostly going by Intel since I'm a big PC enthusiast, so with IBM perhaps it would be different.

Yes they have, the EE+GS chip is either 45nm or 32nm. Which explains the PS2 price cut. Cell v2 would probably be a cross-up in size. Some transistors could easily be at 11nm if Cell v1 is at 11nm. Its just the main cores would probably be upgraded to be at a higher performance so probably 45nm cores which are the most important part of the CPU anyways. Plus the socket would need to be upgraded due to a doubling or tripling of SPEs in similar fashion as Intel upgrading sockets to the larger LGA 1366 socket due to adding the other cores, features, and more pins.



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