The Cell Processor....

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joeorc said:

HappySqurriel said:

joeorc said:

crumas2 said:
Lots of interesting stuff in this thread, such as claims that the cell is a CPU/GPU hybrid (it's a CPU with some really powerful DSP hardware built in, not a GPU), and that the cell has 8 cores (it doesn't... it has 1 PPE and 8 SPEs, 6 of which can be used by developers), and finally, that the Cell isn't any harder to develop for than the tri-core processor in the 360 (it's definitely harder to develop for if you want to get good performance out of it).

I do however agree that the Cell has a higher top-end than the tri-code CPU in the 360, but it takes heavy lifting to get there, i.e. - it costs more.

yea let's see, where is your PHD...yea let's all agree you know more than the people that designed the d@mn chip.
the facts are:
THE  CELL IS FOR A FACT A HYBRID CPU/GPU no matter how much you want to say it is not it is what it is.
THE CELL PROCESSOR'S SPE's are in fact Full blown processing CORES no matter how much you want to say it is not it is what it is.
even with 100% proof you still have people such as yourself that refuse to say you were wrong.
this is getting rather silly.
have fun with your AGENDA

Whenever you're dealing with the classification of something where there is no "solid" characteristics that are used to determine how to group things together it becomes very much open to debate ... and even the designer of something doesn't have a more authoritative opinion on the matter. The Cell processor lacks the ability to handle shader effects at a decent level, which means that it can not really be classified as a GPU in the modern sense.

From what I have seen, you have as large (or larger) agenda of anyone in this thread, and you seem unwilling to listen to other people who have a better understanding of how processors work, what is important, and how to classify them. Your opinion is so trapped in the marketing and hype surrounding the Cell that you can not accept that it is not amazingly powerful when it comes to being a CPU for a videogame console.

o'l please your trying to claim your OPINION on something is more correct than the people with PHD's who ONCE again designed the D@MN CHIP..YEA GOTCHA.

yea because the Cell cannot handle shader effects at a decent level that make's it not a GPU..god that's like saying because 3 cycle engine is not as fast as a v8 is not an engine.. yea gotcha

better understanding of how processor's work...OK you program for what type of processor's.? and your the end all be all on all type's of processor's.

My AGENDA..my AGENDA please if anyone has AGENDA'a it's the people such as your self you have no problem in asking for proof what something is but when it's posted you then come out and say well that's not what it need's to be classified as. Even when it's 100% proof + that it is. it is you and other's that are clear on their AGENDA

Seriously man, say it don't spray it. 

I've looked at that PDF, and it seemed to me that it was saying that the Cell was a step in the direction of CPU/GPU hybridization, not that it was full-blown already at the destination. 

In any case, tone it down and stop putting apostrophes everywhere a word ends in "s"!