| Lord N said: When you add all of those things together, they can easily run up huge deficits over time. What part of "you can't assign specific profits and losses to devices in an entire division" do you not understand. Percentages aren't anything but marketing spin, and revenue does not equal profits. You again have failed to address what I've said, which is that for all of the 360's sold, etc, MSFT hasn't actually made any money. MSFT is selling more 360's than it was at this time last year, yet the money has not significantly increased. As a matter of fact, the E&D Division posted a 31 million dollar loss last quarter. The Xbox 360 bothering me on a personal level? Please. If anything, it's you who seems to throw a fit every time someone says anything that runs contrary to the 360 being master of the universe.
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When you add all of those things together, they can easily run up huge deficits over time.
This doesn't mean anything.
What part of "you can't assign specific profits and losses to devices in an entire division" do you not understand. Percentages aren't anything but marketing spin, and revenue does not equal profits.
Marketing spin does not belong on a financial report. If the auditor thought that any of their statements were misleading they would have written so on the auditors report and since no such statement has been made by the auditor its fairly safe to say that none of the statements and figures shown are misleading or false.
Revenue - liabilities = profit. I get that point pretty well. You ignored the 4.3B cost of revenue, not me.
You again have failed to address what I've said, which is that for all of the 360's sold, etc, MSFT hasn't actually made any money. MSFT is selling more 360's than it was at this time last year, yet the money has not significantly increased. As a matter of fact, the E&D Division posted a 31 million dollar loss last quarter.
So? Your beliefs aren't going to change no matter what is said because you want to believe that the Xbox 360 is unprofitable. It doesn't matter how the division as a whole does because when talking about the Xbox 360 the profitability of the Zune or Windows mobile is irrelevant. Did you not see how the cost of revenue fell even though they sold more Xbox 360s?
The Xbox 360 bothering me on a personal level? Please. If anything, it's you who seems to throw a fit every time someone says anything that runs contrary to the 360 being master of the universe.
Why are you continuing to try to debate this when you don't understand fundamental concepts?
Revenue - liabilities = profit.
I've given you the revenue.
I've given you the liabilities which is padded with Zune and other costs somewhat.
All you've given me is airy BS like, 'I don't believe, or In my heart, my left testicle is telling me'.
The same financial statement is there for you as it is for me. Stop dancing around the issues, stop saying that you don't believe and prove me wrong. Prove conclusively that the Xbox 360 is unprofitable and stop hiding behind the BS on the front of the financial statement which is only telling me you don't know anything about this at all and you're just grinding an axe. The Xbox 360 is a product. It costs money to produce, to advertise etc and it brings in revenue. That one product is all that matters here, prove that its losing money.
Tease.
