Nintendo Wii vs Original Xbox

[PearlJam]

You're more fixated on TEV than I am on the XGPU, that's for sure. You're still not getting that I agree the Wii is more powerful than Xbox. Why is it that you keep regurgitating this info? It is a more efficient system that was put together well, that doesn't mean it can handle all those effects like Xbox can. Last gen developers weren't exactly trying with the Xbox either, games that didn't have a PC version and were ported from PS2 at least added higher poly models, better textures, better draw distances and other various half-assed polishes. Why isn't the same done with Wii? Becasue if you add those things, the hardware takes a hit. On Xbox you can do them as an afterthought, and still run the basic port. The business doesn't work how you think it does, very few devs have the luxury to exploit any given console. You make it sound like every last ounce of juice was squeezed out the Xbox, even though you said the devs are lazy and incompetent.

Of course Western developers have a better grasp of shaders than the Japanese do. These were first used in PC games from Western devs, Japanese devs didn't really start using this stuff until consoles were able to handle them. This is why both Sony and Nintendo didn't make this a priority, they were both too busy worrying about pushing polys. Sony didn't worry about shaders until they got word about 360's GPU capabilities, which is why they basically added a part with similar specs. Nintendo again didn't care enough to add a better solution and they just turned up the volume on what they were already doing. Their solution is "here you can do anything you want with this, good luck getting it all to run" and it shows.

I was talking about the actual 3D models that are used in-game, actual game resources. Some have been ported to GMOD others are in various 3D formats (obj, 3DS, max, etc.). This isn't just looking at pretty graphics and saying it looks good enough, you can actually see what is used and it looks very last-gen. Really the only stuff that looks good is Capcom stuff from you guessed it, their other rail shooter.

You can believe what you want, this isn't going anywhere. So we're just going to have to agree to disagree.