How "hardcore" were the N64 and Gamecube?

[theprof00]

HappySqurriel said:

theprof00 said:

peachbuggy said:
I don't think the Ps1 is seen as being more hardcore than the N64 was, though perhaps at the time. I think the PS2 is perceived as being more hardcore than the GC. Just the impression i get.

You're forgetting that ps1 had FF7

You're forgetting that many of the existing fans of Final Fantasy saw Final Fantasy 7 as a "bastardization" of the series to appeal to a wider audience.

I see what you did there.

FF7 is not a microcosm.

FF7 was simply a change. FF7 wasn't meant to appeal to a wider audience, it was just an original game that deviated from the endless fantasy settings of past FF's. Seriously man, it was a never ending stream of castles, caves, and the elements. I also don't see how anyone could call FF7 more or less casual than any other FF game. They are all basically the same except for the setting, story, and leveling system.