Does anyone still believe in a major turnaround this gen?

[alephnull]

Squilliam said:

alephnull said:

Squilliam said:
^ Someone can say that the PS3 will be on the market less time than the Xbox 360, by those standards nobody can say its true or not. However there is evidence like for example many previous generations had the lowest selling consoles on the market for the least length of time.

Theres no precedent to infer that the PS3 will be on the market for longer than the Xbox 360 but theres at least past precedent to say that it would be on the market for less time. Between those two positions the strongest position would be based around the 'less time on the market position' as there is more evidence to back it up.

Precedent: Neo Geo

You could also mention the Master System in Brazil, but could you really say the PS3 could survive on a niche part of the market?

Ya bloody Oracle!

_{Note: Even if you work for Oracle your current employer is at present teaming up with Microsoft and others to sue the good IBM for abuse of monopolistic power in the server market. *From what I hear*}

> You could also mention the Master System in Brazil, but could you really say the PS3 could survive on a niche > part of the market?

Define "survive". :P

I was just giving a precedent. Although I do think all of the current generation consoles will be around for a very long time for both economic and fundamental tech reasons. Plus, from a competative game theory point of view, unlike every previous generations all three firms seem to have nothing to gain by "defecting" and putting out a new system early.

> Ya bloody Oracle!

_{> Note: Even if you work for Oracle your current employer is at present teaming up with Microsoft and others to sue the good IBM for abuse of monopolistic power in the server market. *From what I hear*}

Well, I should point out that right now intel pays my bills (compiler research grant) these days. I do still work on some side projects with the linux on cell group though and most of my non-matlab code runs on the POWER or the PS3 cluster. However, I do keep up with all the gossip via IM and facebook (and occasionally lotus, arg) with my contacts at IBM. Will post about the iBM intrigues on your profile as this is pretty OT.

Squilliam said:

alephnull said:

Squilliam said:
^ Someone can say that the PS3 will be on the market less time than the Xbox 360, by those standards nobody can say its true or not. However there is evidence like for example many previous generations had the lowest selling consoles on the market for the least length of time.

Theres no precedent to infer that the PS3 will be on the market for longer than the Xbox 360 but theres at least past precedent to say that it would be on the market for less time. Between those two positions the strongest position would be based around the 'less time on the market position' as there is more evidence to back it up.

Precedent: Neo Geo

You could also mention the Master System in Brazil, but could you really say the PS3 could survive on a niche part of the market?

Ya bloody Oracle!

_{Note: Even if you work for Oracle your current employer is at present teaming up with Microsoft and others to sue the good IBM for abuse of monopolistic power in the server market. *From what I hear*}