| BMaker11 said: @madskillz I see the error in the PS3. It was too expensive. Plain and simple. Had it launched at $400, then the hype behind it would have carried it to infinity and beyond. But at $600 and the same games as the 360, not that many people would've wanted it. That much is obvious. It's not a matter of "blaming the consumers for not seeing the value". They only don't buy the console because it's too much money. A fair analogy, not that many people own Ferrari's, but many own a Honda Accord. Why? It's cheaper. Both things go from point A to point B. They both need oil checks, tune ups, tire changes, etc...but the Ferrari is more expensive. And many people know why it's more expensive...but they still don't buy it because it costs more. There are advantages to owning a Ferrari over an Accord, but to some, they don't want to pay that much to get it. Now if the Ferrari was $20,000, or at least at price parity with the Accord, what car do you think more people would buy? And the thing with Valve isn't a matter of blaming. They are supposed to be "the greatest developers in the world" (as hailed by 360 fans)....but when it comes to the PS3, they simply say "this is too hard, I don't wanna do it". Not because "we won't make any money in this investment, so it isn't wise" (for example, not putting Modern Warfare on the Wii because Activision doesn't believe the demographic is there for that game) but because "it's too hard" and "too difficult". So much for being great developers huh? And the only reason, and I mean ONLY reason PS3 fans "grin devilishly" when a 360 game comes to the PS3 is because this ENTIRE generation has been nothing but M$ going "look guys, we get these Playstation games too, you can come play our system now" and now the mass public thinks that it's pointless to get a PS3 because "that game is just going to end up on the 360 anyway". They have brainwashed a lot of people into thinking that, so now, despite having INCREDIBLE games come out from the 1st party and still getting great 3rd party exclusives, the loss of things like GTA, Final Fantasy, DMC, etc outweigh everything else because they were big, established franchises. And many people think to broad. Since GTA went to the 360....the PS3 "has no games" to some still. Maybe not on this forum, but I remember when I bought GTAIV, I was at the midnight launch, and I heard some townie saying "there's no point in buying a PS3. It has the same games as the 360, but it is more expensive". Any smart person would know that the PS3 has a lot of unique and great games that distinguish it from everything else. But anyway, it's Sony's turn with getting the games from the 360. It's only going to be a matter of time before people start looking at the 360 and saying "it's just going to end up on the Playstation anyway". But I guess it won't happen that fast because the 360 was the underdog, getting all the big names from the German Shepard that ran the yard. But now that the PS3 is in last place, it's the underdog taking all the big names...because if I recall correctly, the PS3 has the 360's highest rated exclusive: Bioshock And let Activision make good on their threat. Lose the potential sales from 22M PS3 owners, 120+ million PS2 owners, and 50M PSP owners...that'd be smart /rant |
Reading your post - and trust me, I did - you make it sound like Sony has down no wrong. And boy, have they.
Here's my question - if you can make the same amount of money working at McDonald's vs. working as a nuclear physicist, which job would you take? I'd take the McDonald's job. Why? It's fun and I don't have to use nearly the same amount of energy to get the job done as I would have if I was a physicists.
Valve is making money without the PS3. That's their stance. To make them exert extra effort for a minimal return is pointless. If you like their games, buy the systems they make the games on. Don't whine because said game isn't on your system. No matter what you or other fans do, some developers aren't interested to devoting time to the PS3. Like it or not, no one is forcing anyone to buy a console. You buy it for what you see in it. I could have afforded a PS3 at launch. But I thought about it and didn't see any games I wanted or just had to have.
And this statement ... ONLY reason PS3 fans "grin devilishly" when a 360 game comes to the PS3 is because this ENTIRE generation has been nothing but M$ going "look guys, we get these Playstation games too, you can come play our system now" and now the mass public thinks that it's pointless to get a PS3 because "that game is just going to end up on the 360 anyway". They have brainwashed a lot of people into thinking that, so now, despite having INCREDIBLE games come out from the 1st party and still getting great 3rd party exclusives, the loss of things like GTA, Final Fantasy, DMC, etc outweigh everything else because they were big, established franchises. And many people think to broad. Since GTA went to the 360....the PS3 "has no games" to some still. Maybe not on this forum, but I remember when I bought GTAIV, I was at the midnight launch, and I heard some townie saying "there's no point in buying a PS3. It has the same games as the 360, but it is more expensive". Any smart person would know that the PS3 has a lot of unique and great games that distinguish it from everything else.
Sounds like Xbox fans last gen when they were like 'Yay! We got GTA III! A few years late, but we got it!' Xbox DID get a few of the PS2 timed exclusives - and they sold ok, but it was an old port. Sound familiar?
Brainwashed? Are you serious? How can a person be brainwashed when they are being thrifty - able to watch Netflix on their TV - play HD games for half the cost of a PS3. To me, if I am going to pay for a Ferrari, I better get:
1. A sick, fast engine
2. F-1 transmission
3. Racing suspension
and a resell value that's through the roof.
Comparing a Honda (360) to a Ferrari (PS3) is laughable. The PS3 is not a Ferrari. A tuned Beamer - a 1 series - vs. a hella tuned Accord - or Subaru - or even a Mitsubishi EVO.
The 360 has the third party support - hasn't pissed Activision off and has an 8M console lead.
Smart people, huh? Who was that a swipe at? Folks see the games and aren't interested in the PS3 as much, especially for the price of admission. You - as stated earlier - see value in the PS3. A lot of potential customers don't see that now. Maybe they will, but if they don't have enough exclusives - that's what boosted the PS2 into the stratosphere - no matter how loud you shout, folks will just ignore you and your rants.
